UGA fans Greene vs. Murray

Different eras though all defenses are bad now except alabama and all offensive stats are inflated.

Greene will be more remembered, simply because those teams achieved more. However, UGA defense only gave up 30 points 1 (one) time during Greene's 4 years, and it was in the SECCG to the national champs. In Greene's days, if we scored 20 points chances are we were winning the game.

Murray is more explosive and can do more on the field, but he just hasn't had the same luxury Greene had. Murray has to basically score 35 to give us a chance in every game. Honestly I can't tell you who I'd rather have if I'm picking a team, it will take several years for the recency of Murray to wear off to make that decision. Both of them are fantastic QBs who love the hell out of UGA.

They both were Sabaninzed when it mattered most. That coach probably stopped us from getting two BCSCG trophy crystals.

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What is the legacy of each?

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Not a bad question. I think the legacy of each will be close to equal.

Greene was a great college QB, won a ton of games, a conference Championship, helped manage our turnaround and was the QB on a lot of iconic plays with Larry Munson giving the play by play.

Murray missed out on a conference Championship by about 5 yards, same for a BCS Championship (IMO, we would've smoked ND), plus he didn't win as many games.

On Murray's side, however, and why he will be remembered about like Green, is because he now owns the SEC QB record book. So he has to be mentioned in just about any discussion when a QB is having a good year or is approaching one of his records.

What's missing right now is how AM will do as a pro. If he hangs on with a team and does well, his stock will go up a bit with fans as well.

Next year Mason is going to be given the keys to an offensive Ferrari and told not to crash it. We'll see how the defense does, hopefully under new leadership.

After that it will probably be Brice Ramsey or Jacob Park.

And the Missouri stalwarts, I forgot about them.

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Ramsey? Lemay?

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Lemay will never take a significant snap while at UGA.

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Well that's simply not true. There's only 1 game that I can almost surely say we would've lost had DJ not played as well as he did while Greene struggled.

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Clemson 2002- David Greene largely ineffective throwing for 12 of 22/67 yrds/1 int.
Shockley comes in and opens the game up by using his legs and throws for a TD and runs for a TD; that without, Clemson gets momentum and perhaps wins. David Greene is credited with a win in a game that featured the above stats.


Tennessee 2004- Not a win, but he was the lone bright spot in the entire game. David Greene 15 of 34/163 yrds/0-0 and he was sacked 5 times. Shockley comes in and is able to lead the team to a TD in his only drive going 4 of 6 with a TD throw. WHY he didn't play more in that game still baffles me.


Georgia Tech 2004- Greene goes for a whopping 50% completion percentage going 6 of 12 for 80 yards. He then gets hurt and gives way to Shockley who doesn't fair all that great himself going 6 of 15 for 112 yards and a TD, however he does enough to win the game and get yet another win for David Greene's win total.

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Shock also missed a wide open TD to Reggie in the west endzone. We lost the game...not sure how you can say DJ bailed us out or whatever when we still lost.

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That was my point on that game. I remember Shockley missing Reggie on that throw, but I also think that had he had more opportunities in that game the outcome may have been different. Greene was awful that day.

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Did you watch that game? Shockley looked absolutley dreadful. Greene hurt his thumb but was forced to go back in due to how terrible DJ was.

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I was at that game. But I remember thinking that he was less dreadful that Greene was that day. It was a good thing that the defense showed up that day or else it would have been REAL bad...

But that is the overall tenor of what I am getting at. Greene had many more luxuries at his disposal that Murray has had, which is why I think Murray should have the better legacy as the better QB. Murray had to try and go out and win games, Greene had to do his best not to lose them. Big difference to me.




ETA: as an aside, since we both agree on the Clemson 2002 game that Shockley really took over and helped win; do you really think that the 2002 team builds that never say die attitude and goes on to the SEC Championship if Greene is allowed to finish and lose that game? They could have very easily folded that next week against Carolina as well. (There again, the defense gets the job done when Greene couldn't, which Murray has failed to ever have)Thus losing his only SEC title and reason for people to even consider him for such a debate. Thought provoking.