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2012 Alabama (A Great Schedule Thread)
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:51 pm
I haven't seen the appreciation here, but Alabama fans should be thanking Florida for knocking off Texas A&M and LSU.
Now, LSU fans like to whine about unbalanced schedules. Do you think it would have made a difference the past two seasons? In 2011, Alabama and LSU were clearly above the other 10 SEC teams.
Let's take a look at 2012.
2012 LSU Schedule
The first 5 games would have been a piece of cake.
Oct. 6: @ Florida Gators
I'd like to start by throwing some defensive statistics out there.
Florida -
Total Defense: 5th
Rushing Defense: 4th
Passing Defense: 17th
Passing Efficieny Defense: 2nd
There's no way this would be a 32-28 type game. The score would be much lower for both teams.
I think Alabama would be lucky to score 24 offensive points. With the exception of short fields, Florida would be lucky to score more than 10 offensive points. I think Alabama would win this one, but it would be tough for the first 2-3 quarters. I also wouldn't be surprised if AJ McCarron's interception streak ended in this game.
Oct. 13: South Carolina Gamecocks
South Carolina played Alabama tough in their previous two matchups. However, those games have no bearing on the how this game might have turned out. With the exception of short fields, the South Carolina offense would be lucky to score 3 touchdowns against the Alabama defense. I'm tempted to say Alabama could have done as good a job against South Carolina, if not better, than LSU did, i.e. wear down the South Carolina defense and run the ball down their throat.
Oct. 20: @ Texas A&M Aggies
This is the last SEC game in a tough 3 week stretch. Alabama is probably a little beaten up, but barring significant injuries I'd go with Alabama. You read it everywhere that Texas A&M was a better team 3 weeks later versus Alabama than they were versus LSU. LSU managed to defeat Texas A&M with only 97 yards passing! Alabama would not be coming off a highly physical and emotionally taxing game the previous week. Texas A&M does not start the game 20-0. This would be the toughest game for the Alabama defense all season, but I think they do good enough.
(Hypothetical) Nov. 3: LSU @ Tuscaloosa
Ugh... This is a very tough pick. If I get some substantial feedback, I'll add what thoughts I can regarding this game.
Nov. 10: Mississippi State
This is a blowout.
Nov. 17: Ole Miss Rebels
I don't think this would be a 33-14 type game, but it definitely would not be a 41-35 type game either. Alabama wins this one.
Nov. 23: @ Arkansas Razorbacks
This most certainly isn't a 52-0 game, but Arkansas won't be able to compete with Alabama. If Alabama shows up mentally focused, they win this game easily.
My arguments may seem elementary and/or weak, but I left many points out; I didn't want to invest a ton of effort into creating an essay just to have people tl;dr or make short responses. If I get nice, mature, substantial feedback, then I'll add more of my thoughts in separate replies.
Now, LSU fans like to whine about unbalanced schedules. Do you think it would have made a difference the past two seasons? In 2011, Alabama and LSU were clearly above the other 10 SEC teams.
Let's take a look at 2012.
2012 LSU Schedule
The first 5 games would have been a piece of cake.
Oct. 6: @ Florida Gators
I'd like to start by throwing some defensive statistics out there.
Florida -
Total Defense: 5th
Rushing Defense: 4th
Passing Defense: 17th
Passing Efficieny Defense: 2nd
There's no way this would be a 32-28 type game. The score would be much lower for both teams.
I think Alabama would be lucky to score 24 offensive points. With the exception of short fields, Florida would be lucky to score more than 10 offensive points. I think Alabama would win this one, but it would be tough for the first 2-3 quarters. I also wouldn't be surprised if AJ McCarron's interception streak ended in this game.
Oct. 13: South Carolina Gamecocks
South Carolina played Alabama tough in their previous two matchups. However, those games have no bearing on the how this game might have turned out. With the exception of short fields, the South Carolina offense would be lucky to score 3 touchdowns against the Alabama defense. I'm tempted to say Alabama could have done as good a job against South Carolina, if not better, than LSU did, i.e. wear down the South Carolina defense and run the ball down their throat.
Oct. 20: @ Texas A&M Aggies
This is the last SEC game in a tough 3 week stretch. Alabama is probably a little beaten up, but barring significant injuries I'd go with Alabama. You read it everywhere that Texas A&M was a better team 3 weeks later versus Alabama than they were versus LSU. LSU managed to defeat Texas A&M with only 97 yards passing! Alabama would not be coming off a highly physical and emotionally taxing game the previous week. Texas A&M does not start the game 20-0. This would be the toughest game for the Alabama defense all season, but I think they do good enough.
(Hypothetical) Nov. 3: LSU @ Tuscaloosa
Ugh... This is a very tough pick. If I get some substantial feedback, I'll add what thoughts I can regarding this game.
Nov. 10: Mississippi State
This is a blowout.
Nov. 17: Ole Miss Rebels
I don't think this would be a 33-14 type game, but it definitely would not be a 41-35 type game either. Alabama wins this one.
Nov. 23: @ Arkansas Razorbacks
This most certainly isn't a 52-0 game, but Arkansas won't be able to compete with Alabama. If Alabama shows up mentally focused, they win this game easily.
My arguments may seem elementary and/or weak, but I left many points out; I didn't want to invest a ton of effort into creating an essay just to have people tl;dr or make short responses. If I get nice, mature, substantial feedback, then I'll add more of my thoughts in separate replies.
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:51 pm to Gardevoir
OK
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:53 pm to Gardevoir
YOU are going to lose the TSO this year 
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:54 pm to Gardevoir
This was needed.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:54 pm to Gardevoir
2012 is history, old news and tl;dr.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 7:59 pm to partsman103
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2012 is history, old news and tl;dr.
Speculation is speculation regardless of whether it's in the past or the future. Football is not here now, so all we can do is speculate or talk about the past. I've read a few schedule threads and articles, but people aren't acknowledging that schedule wouldn't have made much if any difference the past two seasons.
Also, we know little about how teams will shape up this fall, but we know plenty about how teams shaped up and performed last season. We can use statistics, gameplay footage, and reasoning to speculate about matchups that didn't happen last season.
Posted on 6/28/13 at 8:12 pm to brick
quote:HE may lose, but Bama willn't! You'll see, I say, you'll see. You betcha!
YOU are going to lose the TSO this year
Posted on 6/28/13 at 8:17 pm to PepaSpray
We will see indeed! 
It will be epic.
I am not joking.( while listening to Prussian Glory in the background)
It will be epic.
I am not joking.( while listening to Prussian Glory in the background)
Posted on 6/28/13 at 9:30 pm to NewtonReb
All the schools understand that LSU and Florida keep knocking each other out of divisional titles.
As long as LSU and Florida are forced to play each other every year, the rest of the SEC benefits by playing either one of them less as a non-divisional foe.
There is no debate about the unfairness. That is what cupcake dynasties are built on.
As long as LSU and Florida are forced to play each other every year, the rest of the SEC benefits by playing either one of them less as a non-divisional foe.
There is no debate about the unfairness. That is what cupcake dynasties are built on.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 6/28/13 at 10:28 pm to Gardevoir
And past history shows that the ONLY two times saban has faced TWO of top three from the east in the same season bama has finished THIRD and FOURTH in the west.
Speculate all you want. That's the facts jack.
Has bama ever faced four top 10 opponents in a row?
Speculate all you want. That's the facts jack.
Has bama ever faced four top 10 opponents in a row?
Posted on 6/28/13 at 11:39 pm to Sheetbend
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All the schools understand that LSU and Florida keep knocking each other out of divisional titles.
As long as LSU and Florida are forced to play each other every year, the rest of the SEC benefits by playing either one of them less as a non-divisional foe.
There is no debate about the unfairness. That is what cupcake dynasties are built on.
Yawn... Florida hasn't posed a threat (outside of Tebow) since Spurrier left. No one else is to blame for LSU's troubles against a Florida team that couldn't beat Louisville. Since 2008, Alabama is 4-1 against the Gators (and defeated them by a margin of 121 - 60). I never heard a single Alabama fan whine about playing them five years in a row, just as I never heard them crying about playing Tennessee when the Vols were going shitters full in Bama's bonghole.
If LSU doesn't finish first in its division, the fans immediately find a scapegoat to blame. No, it's definitely not LSU's fault... Exhibit A: the incessant schedule bitching. Notice UT doesn't bitch about having to play 'Bama. Auburn doesn't bitch about having to play Georgia. Florida doesn't bitch about having to play LSU. It's only LSU fans. But notice they've also had trouble with Arkansas and Ole Miss in recent years (and struggled against Auburn in 2008 and last season). So that just goes to show it isn't Florida's fault, perhaps it's LSU's... only they desperately want to believe Florida is the same opponent they were under Spurrier. And because 'Bama's winning, they want to point out last year's schedule (even though Mizzou was one year removed from being the Big-12 co champs and Michigan won the Sugar Bowl the previous year, plus Florida was coming off a 6 win season - as if anyone could have predicted two of the three teams would have fallen as far last year). So what will the excuse be when UGA and USC rotates back onto the regular season schedule and LSU is stuck with Vandy and Mizzou?
The schedule is fair and balanced. Florida had their moment in the 90s and flash of brilliance when Tebow was playing. Now in the grand scheme of things, they're nothing compared to what they were. UT was a powerhouse up until the waning moments of the last decade. If they were still competing every year, would LSU fans be bitching about scheduling right now? If anyone has a right to bitch, it's Auburn and UGA considering both programs have remained consistent for the most part since the 1980s.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 6/29/13 at 10:27 am to BradPitt
BradPitt, neither the media nor the LSU fans want to admit the truth. If LSU had good quarterback play these last several years, then they'd be quiet and may have won the national championship the past 2 years. LSU fans have no one to blame for Alabama winning these titles than LSU.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 12:44 pm to Gardevoir
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I haven't seen the appreciation here, but Alabama fans should be thanking Florida for knocking off Texas A&M and LSU.
You're welcome. While we are at it, Uga should thank LSU for knocking off SoCar.
Posted on 6/29/13 at 11:53 pm to BradPitt
Gators played bama in the regular season in '10 and '11. What are the other three years you mentioned?
The regular season is the only concern, but, still name those other three seasons?
In the last three years LSU is 7-2 Vs aub, ole miss and arky, 6-0 last two years.
In same time frame bama is 3-3 Vs LSU and auburn and lost to the ONLY EAST opponent they faced that finished the season with a wining conference mark.
If you think these two "bridge schedules" are fair and equal well.......
The regular season is the only concern, but, still name those other three seasons?
In the last three years LSU is 7-2 Vs aub, ole miss and arky, 6-0 last two years.
In same time frame bama is 3-3 Vs LSU and auburn and lost to the ONLY EAST opponent they faced that finished the season with a wining conference mark.
If you think these two "bridge schedules" are fair and equal well.......
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:02 am to 167back
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Gators played bama in the regular season in '10 and '11. What are the other three years you mentioned?
The regular season is the only concern, but, still name those other three seasons?
In the last three years LSU is 7-2 Vs aub, ole miss and arky, 6-0 last two years.
In same time frame bama is 3-3 Vs LSU and auburn and lost to the ONLY EAST opponent they faced that finished the season with a wining conference mark.
If you think these two "bridge schedules" are fair and equal well.......
It's not about whether they are fair or equal. It's about whether or not Alabama could handle your schedules, and I think they could. Are bridge schedules made based on the results of the previous year? If that were the case, then there'd be no sense in rotation. Also, you cannot predict how good or bad a team will be the following season. LSU wouldn't be complaining about bridge schedules if you'd won the Alabama game last season.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:41 am to brick
Wait...the Alabama - Tennessee game will be epic? 
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:49 am to Gardevoir
bama has proven in the past they can't handle a tough east division schedule.
The only two times saban has faced two of top three from the east bama finished fourth and fifth in the west.
Rotation and bridge schedule aren't the same. Bridge schedules were hand picked for '12 and '13. Had nothing to do with normal rotation.
I will predict this for '13. Gators and UGA will be two of top three in the east and vols and wildcats will be two of bottom three and probally be bottom two.
The only two times saban has faced two of top three from the east bama finished fourth and fifth in the west.
Rotation and bridge schedule aren't the same. Bridge schedules were hand picked for '12 and '13. Had nothing to do with normal rotation.
I will predict this for '13. Gators and UGA will be two of top three in the east and vols and wildcats will be two of bottom three and probally be bottom two.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:53 am to 167back
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The only two times saban has faced two of top three from the east bama finished fourth and fifth in the west.
Link.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:54 am to BradPitt
Brad don't waste your time they just move the goal post every time you prove them wrong and certainly don't waste your time with that trolling tard sheetbend and his flames.
Posted on 6/30/13 at 12:57 am to 167back
I think it's pretty obvious that the SEC is aimed to please Alabama and collectively shite on LSU...but hey at least you guys are mentioned in the same breath as Alabama...you at least have that going for you..
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