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Drewbie 
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| So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 3:56 pm)
Who would you rather have of the two? I'd personally say Gruden simply because even though he doesn't like recruiting, he would barely have to try to get top 10 classes every year. He'd just have to walk into the kid's living room sit down and say, "Play for me." and the kid will drop a load in his pants and sign immediately.
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DiafGtfo 
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 3:59 pm to Drewbie)
I don't want to live in fantasy land.
ETA: Actually, I do. I want to go back in time and tell Bobby "wear a helmet".
This post was edited on 11/17 at 4:00 pm
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Gladius Veritas 
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:18 pm to Drewbie)
Probably Gruden
He'd be the only one who could compete with LSU, Bama, etc. in recruiting
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songofthesword
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:18 pm to DiafGtfo)
Patterson
beucase Gruden would be gone the first winning season we had to the NFL. he's an NFL guy. NFL guys go back to the NFL
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UltimateHog 
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:48 pm to songofthesword)
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beucase Gruden would be gone the first winning season we had to the NFL. he's an NFL guy. NFL guys go back to the NFL
If we got Gruden, that would be the plan in place.
Gruden would come in for 2-4 years tops to save the program and bring it back from the dumpster, probably a BCS bowl, then gone.
Then we'd bring in a top tier college coach to take over a current Top 15 program/team.
In a dream world.
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oklahogjr 
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:54 pm to Drewbie)
Patterson
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DaleDenton
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 5:12 pm to Drewbie)
Patterson, unless you can name one QB that Gruden has developed.
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Drewbie
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 6:34 pm to DaleDenton)
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unless you can name one QB that Gruden has developed.
He won a Super Bowl with Tampa fricking Bay with Brad fricking Johnson as the QB. What else do you want?
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oklahogjr
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 6:36 pm to Drewbie)
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He won a Super Bowl with Tampa fricking Bay with Brad fricking Johnson as the QB. What else do you want?
proof that he'll be a solid recruiter, can manage all the aspects of being a Head Coach, not get us into a bunch of recruiting violations, and some way to know he wouldn't instantly jump back to the pros within a year or two.
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DaleDenton
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 6:52 pm to Drewbie)
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He won a Super Bowl with Tampa fricking Bay with Brad fricking Johnson as the QB. What else do you want?
Nutt did a decent job here with Ford's players and with Orgeron's at Ole Miss.
Best I can tell, Gruden's success came with Dungy's team at Tampa.
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Drewbie
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 6:59 pm to oklahogjr)
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proof that he'll be a solid recruiter
He won't even have to try to get recruits. They'll be waiting for the offer to play for him.quote:
can manage all the aspects of being a Head Coach
Already been one multiple times.quote:
not get us into a bunch of recruiting violations
See first note.quote:
and some way to know he wouldn't instantly jump back to the pros within a year or two.
No proof of that. But all he has to do is dig Arkansas out of this dumpster fire and get us back in BCS shape. Our next hire can be the lifer.
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UltimateHog
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:02 pm to DaleDenton)
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Best I can tell, Gruden's success came with Dungy's team at Tampa.
Yeah because the team Gruden left Bill Callahan in Oakland wasn't in the Super Bowl or anything.
Goes both ways there chief.
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DaleDenton
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:05 pm to UltimateHog)
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Bill Callahan
The same Bill Callahan recruits were going to run to at Nebraska?
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UltimateHog
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:07 pm to DaleDenton)
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The same Bill Callahan recruits were going to run to at Nebraska?
This is about Gruden not Callahan so wtf do I care about Bill Callahan at Nebraska? Has nothing to do with this conversation.
You discredited Grudens super bowl claiming it was Dungy's team when you failed to realize the team they played was Grudens old team. Herp Derp.
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DaleDenton
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:12 pm to UltimateHog)
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You discredited Grudens super bowl claiming it was Dungy's team when you failed to realize the team they played was Grudens old team. Herp Derp.
I didn't fail to realize anything.
You are failing to convince me that Gruden would succeed on the college level and no one has yet to compile a compelling argument for such.
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UltimateHog
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:15 pm to DaleDenton)
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I didn't fail to realize anything.
Sure you did.
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You discredited Grudens super bowl claiming it was Dungy's team when you failed to realize the team they played was Grudens old team. Herp Derp.
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Porky
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| re: So imagine that both the Patterson and Gruden rumors are true, which one? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 8:01 pm to Drewbie)
Patterson...not even close.
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