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LSU's schedule wasn't any harder than UGA's
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:56 pm
Here's the dirty secret: LSU's schedule wasn't any harder than Georgia's.
Sounds like a crazy thing to say, but only if you've been swallowing the approved storyline from the media for the past two or three months. First let's get the two teams' common opponents out of the way.
Georgia LSU
Auburn Won by 38 Won by 35
Florida Won by 4 Won by 30
Kentucky Won by 9 Won by 28
Mississippi StateWon by 14 Won by 13
Ole Miss Won by 14 Won by 49
Tennessee Won by 8 Won by 31
The differences in the Auburn and Mississippi State games are so small as to be statistically insignificant (though it does bear mentioning that Georgia had greater margins of victory in those games). As for the other four, what do Florida, Ole Miss and Tennessee all have in common? LSU got to face them without their first-string quarterbacks (John Brantley, Randall Mackey and Tyler Bray, respectively), while Georgia got all three teams' best shot.
why isn't LSU being called out for getting to skate against backups in three of their most critical games? And why isn't Georgia getting more credit for facing three elite passers away from Athens?
The other two opponents on LSU's conference slate were Alabama and Arkansas, while Georgia faced Vanderbilt and South Carolina. This is the part where Georgia is taking the most heat, because the Bulldogs enjoyed a supposedly magical scheduling quirk that allowed them to avoid the top three teams from the West. But why isn't LSU taking more heat for avoiding the top two teams in the East (Georgia and South Carolina)?
And why are Alabama and Arkansas being treated like juggernauts anyway? The Razorbacks, for their part, played a ridiculously easy non-conference schedule and got blown off the field by the top two teams they faced.
As for Alabama, all the hype over the LSU-Bama game only concealed the fact that LSU was playing last year's fourth-place finisher in the SEC West, a team that couldn't score a single TD against the Tigers in their own stadium. Ask yourself this: If Georgia had welcomed last year's fourth-place team in the East Division (Tennessee) to Sanford Stadium and only ended up winning a 9-6 slog in overtime, would they get any credit? (Heck, the Bulldogs went to Knoxville in October and handily beat a Tennessee team fielding a healthy Tyler Bray, and they're still not getting any credit for it.)
So now that we've collapsed the myth of LSU's superior conference slate, let's attack the last stand of the LSU Kool-Aid drinkers: the Bayou Bengals' supposedly formidable non-conference slate. LSU did play a Football Championship Subdivision team, which we can dispense with right away -- they beat Northwestern State, a team that finished 2011 with a losing record, by 46; Georgia beat Coastal Carolina, a team with a winning record, by 59 (and that was after pulling their starters for the majority of the second half). Both teams also played lower-tier mid-majors: LSU beat Western Kentucky by 33 after struggling with the Hilltoppers for much of the first half, while Georgia destroyed New Mexico State by 47 points -- and that was without the services of the top four running backs on the Bulldogs' roster. If anything, that's a point in the Dawgs' favor.
That leaves LSU's last two non-conference opponents: Oregon and West Virginia. LSU got a lot of cred from beating these two as both games took place away from Baton Rouge and both teams were ranked when the Tigers played them. You know what that sounds a lot like? Georgia's season-bookending games against No. 5 Boise State and No. 23 Georgia Tech, both of which took place away from Sanford Stadium.
Beneath the gloss and glamour of the Ducks' fancy uniforms and scorching-hot cheerleaders, it's hard to make a convincing case that they're that much stronger an opponent than Boise State. After all, Boise beat Oregon the last time they faced off, and in fairly humiliating fashion -- the Broncos held the Ducks' vaunted offense to just eight points and six first downs. With that in mind, you kind of have to wonder how LSU allowed them 27 points in their 2011 opener -- and why that game is credited with establishing the Tigers as national frontrunners. (Besides, when was the last time the defense-optional Pac-12 merited being held up as a yardstick for the SEC?)
Keep in mind, none of this is meant to denigrate LSU as an unworthy team. They're the last undefeated squad left in any of the BCS conferences, and that's an achievement regardless of the schedule. But so's a 10-game winning streak, and Georgia's the only other Big Six team to have one on its résumé this season. And there's just no evidence to support this notion that LSU's road has been any tougher than Georgia's -- or, for that matter, even Mississippi State's or Western Kentucky's. After all, both of those squads had to play the No. 1 team in the country at various points this season. LSU can't say the same.
So while you're taking in all the hype of the 2011 SEC title match and witnessing all the pundits overlook the Bulldogs, rolling out LSU's red carpet to New Orleans as if the conference championship were a mere formality, take a closer look at their schedule. LSU is a supremely talented team, one that's certainly capable of beating Georgia this Saturday. But if they do, it won't be because they were more battle-tested.
Sounds like a crazy thing to say, but only if you've been swallowing the approved storyline from the media for the past two or three months. First let's get the two teams' common opponents out of the way.
Georgia LSU
Auburn Won by 38 Won by 35
Florida Won by 4 Won by 30
Kentucky Won by 9 Won by 28
Mississippi StateWon by 14 Won by 13
Ole Miss Won by 14 Won by 49
Tennessee Won by 8 Won by 31
The differences in the Auburn and Mississippi State games are so small as to be statistically insignificant (though it does bear mentioning that Georgia had greater margins of victory in those games). As for the other four, what do Florida, Ole Miss and Tennessee all have in common? LSU got to face them without their first-string quarterbacks (John Brantley, Randall Mackey and Tyler Bray, respectively), while Georgia got all three teams' best shot.
why isn't LSU being called out for getting to skate against backups in three of their most critical games? And why isn't Georgia getting more credit for facing three elite passers away from Athens?
The other two opponents on LSU's conference slate were Alabama and Arkansas, while Georgia faced Vanderbilt and South Carolina. This is the part where Georgia is taking the most heat, because the Bulldogs enjoyed a supposedly magical scheduling quirk that allowed them to avoid the top three teams from the West. But why isn't LSU taking more heat for avoiding the top two teams in the East (Georgia and South Carolina)?
And why are Alabama and Arkansas being treated like juggernauts anyway? The Razorbacks, for their part, played a ridiculously easy non-conference schedule and got blown off the field by the top two teams they faced.
As for Alabama, all the hype over the LSU-Bama game only concealed the fact that LSU was playing last year's fourth-place finisher in the SEC West, a team that couldn't score a single TD against the Tigers in their own stadium. Ask yourself this: If Georgia had welcomed last year's fourth-place team in the East Division (Tennessee) to Sanford Stadium and only ended up winning a 9-6 slog in overtime, would they get any credit? (Heck, the Bulldogs went to Knoxville in October and handily beat a Tennessee team fielding a healthy Tyler Bray, and they're still not getting any credit for it.)
So now that we've collapsed the myth of LSU's superior conference slate, let's attack the last stand of the LSU Kool-Aid drinkers: the Bayou Bengals' supposedly formidable non-conference slate. LSU did play a Football Championship Subdivision team, which we can dispense with right away -- they beat Northwestern State, a team that finished 2011 with a losing record, by 46; Georgia beat Coastal Carolina, a team with a winning record, by 59 (and that was after pulling their starters for the majority of the second half). Both teams also played lower-tier mid-majors: LSU beat Western Kentucky by 33 after struggling with the Hilltoppers for much of the first half, while Georgia destroyed New Mexico State by 47 points -- and that was without the services of the top four running backs on the Bulldogs' roster. If anything, that's a point in the Dawgs' favor.
That leaves LSU's last two non-conference opponents: Oregon and West Virginia. LSU got a lot of cred from beating these two as both games took place away from Baton Rouge and both teams were ranked when the Tigers played them. You know what that sounds a lot like? Georgia's season-bookending games against No. 5 Boise State and No. 23 Georgia Tech, both of which took place away from Sanford Stadium.
Beneath the gloss and glamour of the Ducks' fancy uniforms and scorching-hot cheerleaders, it's hard to make a convincing case that they're that much stronger an opponent than Boise State. After all, Boise beat Oregon the last time they faced off, and in fairly humiliating fashion -- the Broncos held the Ducks' vaunted offense to just eight points and six first downs. With that in mind, you kind of have to wonder how LSU allowed them 27 points in their 2011 opener -- and why that game is credited with establishing the Tigers as national frontrunners. (Besides, when was the last time the defense-optional Pac-12 merited being held up as a yardstick for the SEC?)
Keep in mind, none of this is meant to denigrate LSU as an unworthy team. They're the last undefeated squad left in any of the BCS conferences, and that's an achievement regardless of the schedule. But so's a 10-game winning streak, and Georgia's the only other Big Six team to have one on its résumé this season. And there's just no evidence to support this notion that LSU's road has been any tougher than Georgia's -- or, for that matter, even Mississippi State's or Western Kentucky's. After all, both of those squads had to play the No. 1 team in the country at various points this season. LSU can't say the same.
So while you're taking in all the hype of the 2011 SEC title match and witnessing all the pundits overlook the Bulldogs, rolling out LSU's red carpet to New Orleans as if the conference championship were a mere formality, take a closer look at their schedule. LSU is a supremely talented team, one that's certainly capable of beating Georgia this Saturday. But if they do, it won't be because they were more battle-tested.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:56 pm to RBL
Yeah, but LSU won all their games.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:57 pm to RBL
Whatever makes you feel better.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:57 pm to RBL
RBL, step away from the fricking keyboard.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:57 pm to RBL
good lord how long did that take to type
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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good lord how long did that take to type
I think it was a copy and paste from an article. There's another thread with a link to it.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to RBL
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while Georgia got all three teams' best shot.
Um, no. Brantley was still hobbled.
Just take your arse kicking like a man and be done with it.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to RBL
Did you see what LSU did to Oregon? They would have wiped the fricking floor with Boise. Why don't you go say some prayers with Richt and lay off of here, champ.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to RBL
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As for Alabama, all the hype over the LSU-Bama game only concealed the fact that LSU was playing last year's fourth-place finisher in the SEC West, a team that couldn't score a single TD against the Tigers in their own stadium.
Last I checked, that "fourth place team" was 10-3 finishing in the top ten again. Not to mention a year removed from a national title. What was Tennessee doing besides finishing 6-7?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to RBL
tl;dr so I'm going to just assume you copy/pasted an entire wikipedia article of some sort
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to RBL
Evidently LSU's was actually easier- because Georgia has 2 losses and LSU has none.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:58 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
oh then it's just germans
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:59 pm to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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I think it was a copy and paste from an article. There's another thread with a link to it.
and the article is clearly a joke
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:59 pm to RBL
You really think people are gonna read that?
Posted on 11/30/11 at 8:59 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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