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LSU 2004 and Alabama 2010

Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:31 pm
Posted by souldog
Johnstown, PA
Member since Jul 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:31 pm
Look at LSU and Alabama's season after Saban won NC there. Both 9-3 (pre-Bama bowl) with losses that are similar:

LSU 2004

Auburn 10-9
Georgia 45-16
Iowa 30-25


Alabama 2010

South Carolina 35-21
LSU 24-21
Auburn 28-27

Saban even is using the same words and tone he did at LSU in 2004 (immature, lack of attention to detail and the process)

He has said that 2004 was his most difficult year in coaching. What is he saying about Alabama's season 2010?

Any insights?

Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:33 pm to
He's waiting on a phone call from Jerry.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

He's waiting on a phone call from Jerry.


I wish
Posted by ECUtider
Charlotte, NC
Member since Jun 2009
1177 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:37 pm to
might as well fire his arse. We were just oozing with depth and experience this year, 9-3 is NOT acceptable









Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:38 pm to
I was telling people before the season that he would do this. He loses 3-4 games the year after winning a NC. Its just his thing.
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

I was telling people before the season that he would do this. He loses 3-4 games the year after winning a NC.


Every time being once before
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

I was telling people before the season that he would do this. He loses 3-4 games the year after winning a NC. Its just his thing.

I guess you're good at spotting trends after an event occurs once?
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:47 pm to
I think the comparison is really interesting actually.

I can understand his frustration honestly. We had a lot of guys last year that were

1) Unreal competitors
2) Mature beyond their age
3) Hungry, very hungry

A great coach once told me that sometimes you just have to try not to wreck the bus on the way to the game and I think last years team was like that once the season got rolling.

This years team is the exact opposite. You always battle complacency and not just with the players but with coaches too. I think it was a struggle all year to get people both young and old along with experienced and inexperienced to buy into "the process".

In my opinion, not only did we struggle with some of the young guys developing but there are other guys (Mark Ingram) that in my opinion regressed. And there are lots of reasons for that, one being a rather serious knee injury.

With that being said, I said at the first of the year if we only lost 2-3 games it would be a successful season. The season will always be looked as a failure in many peoples eyes because of the way they lost to LSU and especially Auburn.

Last Friday's Iron Bowl is our generations' Punt Bama Punt. That's going to leave a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouth.

Saban actually apologized Saturday night. I think he tends to coach better or at least motivate better when there is something to be pissed about. He's a lot like a fan in that case in that he can't just be happy when things are going so well.

I believe the Iron Bowl rejuvenates the program and we'll be back in Atlanta next year.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

Its just his thing.


Without commenting on the retardation of this comment to Saban's credit we lost some of the greatest players to ever suit up for Bama last year.

Not too mention we battled some pretty serious injuries to key players.

If winning 10 games the year after winning a national championship is his thing, I'll take it.
Posted by souldog
Johnstown, PA
Member since Jul 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 11/29/10 at 8:51 pm to
If you are right, deaux, it will be another great coaching job on Saban's part. Often guys will come in and rejuvenate a program and get a handful of guys to become leaders. That seems to be more common than it happening after a coach has been there for a while.

You can list the guys at Alabama that this applies to in 07-09 as well as LSU could in the early 2000's.

Doing it the second time around at the same school has historically been a tougher row to hoe.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 6:35 pm to
2010 Alabama > 2004 LSU
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5399 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

I was telling people before the season that he would do this. He loses 3-4 games the year after winning a NC. Its just his thing.


Because it has happened once before, right?

Do you remember the numerous "Saban has never had back-to-back 10-win seasons" threads?

Same thing.

The difference between 2010 Bama and 2004 LSU is that the SECw is tougher now.
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