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Alabama's Unhappy Castoffs

Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:21 am
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:21 am
From Wall Street Journal Article:

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Ex-Players Say Coach Nick Saban Pressured Them to Take Medical Scholarships; a 'Bitter' Outcome


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At least 12 times since coach Nick Saban took over the program in 2007, Alabama has offered players a "medical" scholarship, according to public statements made by the team. These scholarships, which are allowed under NCAA rules, are intended to make sure scholarship athletes who are too injured to play don't lose their financial aid. A player who receives one of these scholarships is finished playing with that team.

Three Alabama players who've taken these exemptions say they believe the team uses the practice as a way to clear spots for better players by cutting players it no longer wants. These players said they believe Mr. Saban and his staff pressure some players to take these scholarships even though their injuries aren't serious enough to warrant keeping them off the field.

"I'm still kind of bitter," said former Alabama linebacker Chuck Kirschman, who took a medical scholarship last year. Mr. Kirschman said Mr. Saban encouraged him to accept the scholarship because of a back problem that he believes he could have played through. "It's a business," Mr. Kirschman said. "College football is all about politics. And this is a loophole in the system."


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An Alabama spokesman said the school won't discuss individual cases, citing health-privacy laws. Mr. Saban declined to comment.

How college-football teams manage their allotted number of players is a serious competitive issue in the sport. The 120 schools in the NCAA's Football Bowl Subdivision, the sport's highest echelon, are limited to 85 scholarship athletes each. No more than 25 new signees are allowed to join a team in the fall. Because injuries are common, teams do whatever they can to make sure those spots are filled by the best athletes.

Because some players may fail to qualify academically, some teams take on more players than they have room for, to make sure they don't get caught short. The problem for teams comes when the numbers don't work out and the team winds up needing to make cuts.


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Mr. Kirschman, the linebacker, said he injured his back in April 2008 but continued practicing with the team through the spring of 2009. That May, he was approached by coaches and trainers and asked to take a medical scholarship.

"I wasn't playing significant minutes, but I was personally upset because I did anything coach asked, I was a team player, I had a 4.0 average," said Mr. Kirschman, who played in two career games, both in 2008, and is now working full time as a robot programmer at Mercedes.

Mr. Kirschman said the school offered in the summer of 2009 to pay for his graduate degree in business—an offer he accepted—and that he still gets some of the same perks as players. "I still get game tickets, which is nice," he says.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:25 am to
There is a 5 page thread about this on the front page
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:25 am to
They were cast off to German Island...
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:26 am to
Did you just wake up?

We had this thread with our morning coffee.
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:27 am to
Didn't even have to search. First page.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:27 am to
Hot off the press huh?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:27 am to
i'm making it my personal mission today to bump the main thread all day. make sure everybody sees it.
This post was edited on 9/24/10 at 11:30 am
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:28 am to
I bet he was really self satisfied while composing the thread...softly chuckling to himself as he selected the juicy segments he was going to quote...all the while he was Germans as frick.
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:29 am to
Not even debating it. There's a big thread about it already going. No sense in having two retarded-long threads about the same thing.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49531 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:29 am to
Would they prefer to have their scholarships not renewed?

Some people just can't be happy.
Posted by DvlsAdvocat
Your Mom's House, AL
Member since Jul 2007
24491 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:30 am to
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not surprised one bit. the way Saban runs his program and how he manages scholarships, it was bound to happen sooner or later that people finally got fed up with it and want something done.

hopefully this is the catalyst that leads to this loophole getting changed to even the playing field for the programs that don't use these tactics.


Yeah, its well beyond time to do away with these "medical scholarships"...if a guy gets hurt, then frick you and get off my campus. Its not like they were going to do anything with a degree anyway...
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Would they prefer to have their scholarships not renewed?

Some people just can't be happy.
:nologicplease:
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I bet he was really self satisfied while composing the thread...softly chuckling to himself as he selected the juicy segments he was going to quote...all the while he was Germans as frick.

I pictured this while reading it and .
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4341 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:33 am to
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They were cast off to German Island...


That's a good one.

Considering all the duplicated Saban worship on here hourly from you gumps, we still have 20 or 30 more threads on this started just to catch up!
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37247 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:33 am to
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hopefully this is the catalyst that leads to this loophole getting changed to even the playing field for the programs that don't use these tactics.


I agree. I'd also like to see an "Eli Porter" rule instituted.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34869 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:35 am to
They went to go play in the Bundesliga
Posted by hwnd
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Member since Apr 2010
8114 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:35 am to
quote:

LSUnKaty


Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:35 am to
I hope you were reading this site in Braille.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:36 am to
There is only one thread about Saban on the first page, and you duplicated it.



Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 9/24/10 at 11:37 am to
Hey dumbass. There is complete thread just three threads below this one. Search at least the front page before you make an arse out of yourself.
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