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Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:00 pm to Doresrules
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:00 pm to Doresrules
Chiming in here... wasn't part of the Coach O hire also that they felt elements of West Coast offense would present problems for rest of the SEC? That clearly didn't work out, at least under O's watch, but yeah wasn't that a big factor as well?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 1:19 pm to SquarePizzaRebel
I'm not certain on that. I just know the big problem with Cut was his inability to recruit at a SEC level, and his unwillingness to let go of staff who sucked at recruiting. If I'm not mistaken Coach O was the national recruiter of the year the year he was hired at OM.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:50 pm to Doresrules
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You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
I have a family member who is on the Board....
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Petrino WANTED the job. Our administration for whatever reason fell in love with Coach O and his ability to recruit. Erickson was loved by some but the good ol boys wanted Coach O
This tells me explicitly that you do not know how the process works or who the decision makers were/are. When you say things like "the administration" and "the good ole boys" it proves my point.
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We have a top ten salary. You are a freaking idiot if you think guys are turning that down
Uhhh. Lots of them are. Lots of them have. And that number will grow.
When you sober up, think about what you are saying: Petrino and Erickson wanted the job. But instead we chose a offensive line coach, who once got arrested for drunkenly hitting his wife, who had zero head coaching experience.
You can't possibly believe that?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:54 pm to Doresrules
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I just know the big problem with Cut was his inability to recruit at a SEC level, and his unwillingness to let go of staff who sucked at recruiting.
Pete Boone fired David Cutcliffe because he (Pete) hated Cutcliffe's guts. He just needed Cutcliffe to have one bad season in the post Eli era to give him an excuse.
All of that chatter you posted above about recruiting once again shows you simply don't know what you're talking about. Final answer.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 2:57 pm to Insideradvantage
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Since the seemingly daily news of something else Freeze was involved in has gone dry, are we to assume there's nothing else to report on his personal life? God I hope so.
That would be a poor assumption. If other stuff doesn't come out that publicly and severely impacts the decision of the COI, then we should consider ourselves lucky.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 5:53 pm to Insideradvantage
Even with the NCAA crap hanging over our heads I really can't count 25 better jobs in the country than ours. We will have a top 15 paying job, a good recruiting territory, and built-in job security.
We don't have to hire Matt Luke. We can do better.
We don't have to hire Matt Luke. We can do better.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 6:34 pm to Peter Venkman
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Even with the NCAA crap hanging over our heads I really can't count 25 better jobs in the country than ours
Then why have we never, ever, ever hired a nationally competitive coach?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 8:54 pm to SquarePizzaRebel
Here are the main reasons we hired Ed O (I've lived in Oxford for more than a decade so I'm not making any of this up):
1) As it's been alluded to, he is a great recruiter. A good portion of Houston Nutt's success in his first 2 years is due to the fact that Ed O recruited his arse off, but just couldn't coach them up. He got players like Michael Oher, Shay Hodge, Dexter McCluster, Kendrick Lewis, Kentrell Lockett, Mike Wallace, etc.
2) He was a defensive coach for USC (defensive line if I'm not mistaken), so we believed that it was the some of the west coast defensive schemes would help us in the SEC, as well as Ed O's hard nose attitude. Remember that this was when USC had Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, and other godly college players who tore it up on the field, so any coach from USC looked like an attractive hire.
3) The west coast offensive stuff was part of it, but I don't think that we brought O to Oxford with offense heavily in mind. We had a great offensive scheme under Cut, and I don't think that we would have changed it too much upon the arrival of Ed o.
4) We were desperate. No good head coach wants to come to Oxford, Mississippi of all places, and have to compete with the powerhouse teams of the SEC on the field, and in recruiting, with fewer resources and a smaller fan base. We had some great seasons under Cut, but frankly it all started to crumble after guys like Eli and Deuce were gone. Cut didn't recruit well enough to have sustainable success after Eli, and it showed in the next season (2004) when we had a record of 4-7.
The rest is history.
1) As it's been alluded to, he is a great recruiter. A good portion of Houston Nutt's success in his first 2 years is due to the fact that Ed O recruited his arse off, but just couldn't coach them up. He got players like Michael Oher, Shay Hodge, Dexter McCluster, Kendrick Lewis, Kentrell Lockett, Mike Wallace, etc.
2) He was a defensive coach for USC (defensive line if I'm not mistaken), so we believed that it was the some of the west coast defensive schemes would help us in the SEC, as well as Ed O's hard nose attitude. Remember that this was when USC had Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, and other godly college players who tore it up on the field, so any coach from USC looked like an attractive hire.
3) The west coast offensive stuff was part of it, but I don't think that we brought O to Oxford with offense heavily in mind. We had a great offensive scheme under Cut, and I don't think that we would have changed it too much upon the arrival of Ed o.
4) We were desperate. No good head coach wants to come to Oxford, Mississippi of all places, and have to compete with the powerhouse teams of the SEC on the field, and in recruiting, with fewer resources and a smaller fan base. We had some great seasons under Cut, but frankly it all started to crumble after guys like Eli and Deuce were gone. Cut didn't recruit well enough to have sustainable success after Eli, and it showed in the next season (2004) when we had a record of 4-7.
The rest is history.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:26 pm to RebelTheBear
Didn't Dickie Scruggs fly in Erickson for the interview? H to H interviewed him a few weeks ago, and he thought he had the job.
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