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Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:36 pm to WithaRebelYell
If he's here that long. You're talkin 25-30 years.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:39 pm to WithaRebelYell
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You honestly don't think we can/will compete for championships?
lol no
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:41 pm to WithaRebelYell
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I think before Freeze retires we win the west.
Freezus will die and come back as a walking mustache before Ole Miss wins the west.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:51 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
No, I just think Freeze is a great coach and an even better recruiter. Sorry I've got faith in my team. If Nutt can win with Freezes recruits I think Freeze will do much better.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 12:53 pm to WithaRebelYell
Freeze still leaves a lot to be desired with his coaching abilities. He's young though
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:00 pm to WithaRebelYell
Ok...not trying to start an argument on your team board. If I were an Ole Miss fan, I would be concerned about the way you finished last season + the lack of any o-line depth in the third season of the coaches tenure.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:09 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Valid point and I would completely agree with you if our last coaching staff had left us with anything when I say anything I mean anything! We have come a long way with our depth since Freeze has gotten here not all Lineman are like Tunsil and start right away most take at least two years to be college ready. We will have to take another Juco OT this year because of Austin leaving.
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:17 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Dude that's horse shite. Nutt left us with jack shite.
Freeze has recruited 4-5 O-Linemen in each of his last two classes, but they're young.
We will have 15 OL on campus this fall, but 5 will be brand new faces.
The lack of OL depth is on the last coaching staff, not Freeze. He's gonna have depth next year.
Y'all negative punks can stay the way you are, but I have faith. I'm not irrational, either. I predicted 7 regular season wins last year. I figure on 8 being the goal this year. Anything else is gravy.
We finished just fine last year. Missouri was a fantastic team. They won the East. No shame in losing to them. We played them tough with really a nonexistent run game. That wasn't due to coaching, but injuries along the O-Line.
State's defense was better than credited last year. They just shut us down because, once again, we had no run game. We had even MORE injuries in that game than we did against Mizzou.
You saw what a rash of injuries to key players did to teams like UF and UGA last year. Teams that HAVE a lot of depth. I believe our coaching got us to 8 wins last year IN SPITE of our rash of injuries.
People expect too much too quickly these days. Freeze is only in his third year here. He's done nothing but inspire confidence from me. He's done more with less than any other coach in this division. His last two classes have been top 10 and top 15 classes, but they're still freshmen and sophomores.
Y'all thinking he can't compete and win the SEC with consistent top 15 recruiting classes are just sad. I've been an OM fan for all 28 of my years. I've seen us bad. It was due to a shitty team management, not some innate lack of ability for this university to compete.
Suck it up, losers. I'm sick of reading your lame arse whiny woe-is-me bullshite.
Freeze has recruited 4-5 O-Linemen in each of his last two classes, but they're young.
We will have 15 OL on campus this fall, but 5 will be brand new faces.
The lack of OL depth is on the last coaching staff, not Freeze. He's gonna have depth next year.
Y'all negative punks can stay the way you are, but I have faith. I'm not irrational, either. I predicted 7 regular season wins last year. I figure on 8 being the goal this year. Anything else is gravy.
We finished just fine last year. Missouri was a fantastic team. They won the East. No shame in losing to them. We played them tough with really a nonexistent run game. That wasn't due to coaching, but injuries along the O-Line.
State's defense was better than credited last year. They just shut us down because, once again, we had no run game. We had even MORE injuries in that game than we did against Mizzou.
You saw what a rash of injuries to key players did to teams like UF and UGA last year. Teams that HAVE a lot of depth. I believe our coaching got us to 8 wins last year IN SPITE of our rash of injuries.
People expect too much too quickly these days. Freeze is only in his third year here. He's done nothing but inspire confidence from me. He's done more with less than any other coach in this division. His last two classes have been top 10 and top 15 classes, but they're still freshmen and sophomores.
Y'all thinking he can't compete and win the SEC with consistent top 15 recruiting classes are just sad. I've been an OM fan for all 28 of my years. I've seen us bad. It was due to a shitty team management, not some innate lack of ability for this university to compete.
Suck it up, losers. I'm sick of reading your lame arse whiny woe-is-me bullshite.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:48 pm to Wanderin Reb
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Y'all negative punks can stay the way you are, but I have faith.
Fair enough. It sounds like you truly #believe.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:51 pm to sorantable
Not even remotely on that level of delusion.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:35 pm to Wanderin Reb
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Y'all thinking he can't compete and win the SEC with consistent top 15 recruiting classes are just sad.
Well considering a top 15 class is about 5th in the west and 6-8 in the SEC overall I don't think that 1 = the other.
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Y'all negative punks can stay the way you are, but I have faith. I'm not irrational, either. I predicted 7 regular season wins last year. I figure on 8 being the goal this year. Anything else is gravy.
How is that disagreeing with anything I've said? Does 8 wins = SECw title?
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I believe our coaching got us to 8 wins last year IN SPITE of our rash of injuries.
We still lost 2 games we should not have. Just like in 2012. Do you blame Nutt for those losses? The players? If you blame the players, did you also blame them when Nutt was here? No, it ultimately falls on the coaching staff.
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People expect too much too quickly these days.
Wait wait wait... You're the one thinking we are gonna compete for an SEC championship but WE are the ones expecting to much to soon? Lulz
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Suck it up, losers. I'm sick of reading your lame arse whiny woe-is-me bullshite.
This post is the most "lame arse whiny woe-is-me-bullshite" I've seen on this board in a minute. You may not be irrational in your prediction for next season but this post was pretty fricking irrational.
/realist out
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:40 pm to UMRealist
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:31 pm to UMRealist
I'm not saying we will compete THIS YEAR.
I'm saying that we CAN compete once Freeze is completely settled in.
You guys are the ones saying we will NEVER COMPETE EVER BECAUSE WAOM IS ME.
I'm sick of that shite. It's such a cop out. Like you're too cool to care.
Why even follow the team if you think it's incapable of being built into a winner?
I'm not saying we will win this year. I'm saying we can be built into a winner.
What games did we lose that we should have won?
Let's go down the list of losses:
Bama - LOL
Auburn - Nope. No way we "should have won" that one.
TAMU - If this is one of your "should have wons" then you're crazy. Toss up game could go either way.
Mizzou - SEC East champs. Think we "should have won" that one? Toss up. Wrong side of it for us.
State - Never is a "should win" in Starkville. It's a rivalry. The underdog will always play out of their minds.
We lost some toss ups and then we lost to Bama. The ball didn't bounce our way in the toss-ups thanks to injuries and, yes, bone-headed play calling in some areas. Every good coach has shitty games. The ones at talented schools get way with it thanks to their talent level on the field. We don't have that, yet.
Top 15 classes are enough to compete in the SEC when combined with good coaching. I think Freeze is young and has shown that he will improve his game- planning and decision making. He attempts to make adjustments when something doesn't work. He's been stubborn a few times, but young coaches will be.
I just think it's ridiculous to support a team you think will never be capable of winning its conference.
I'm saying that we CAN compete once Freeze is completely settled in.
You guys are the ones saying we will NEVER COMPETE EVER BECAUSE WAOM IS ME.
I'm sick of that shite. It's such a cop out. Like you're too cool to care.
Why even follow the team if you think it's incapable of being built into a winner?
I'm not saying we will win this year. I'm saying we can be built into a winner.
What games did we lose that we should have won?
Let's go down the list of losses:
Bama - LOL
Auburn - Nope. No way we "should have won" that one.
TAMU - If this is one of your "should have wons" then you're crazy. Toss up game could go either way.
Mizzou - SEC East champs. Think we "should have won" that one? Toss up. Wrong side of it for us.
State - Never is a "should win" in Starkville. It's a rivalry. The underdog will always play out of their minds.
We lost some toss ups and then we lost to Bama. The ball didn't bounce our way in the toss-ups thanks to injuries and, yes, bone-headed play calling in some areas. Every good coach has shitty games. The ones at talented schools get way with it thanks to their talent level on the field. We don't have that, yet.
Top 15 classes are enough to compete in the SEC when combined with good coaching. I think Freeze is young and has shown that he will improve his game- planning and decision making. He attempts to make adjustments when something doesn't work. He's been stubborn a few times, but young coaches will be.
I just think it's ridiculous to support a team you think will never be capable of winning its conference.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:35 pm to UMRealist
Sorantable's shtick has been pretty lame lately, talking about how we'll never compete for championships so we shouldn't care. Well we absolutely "competed" in 03 with trash recruiting, so yes I think we can compete again. We are at a huge disadvantage, but if everyone in our fanbase has that defeatist attitude we for sure will never compete. I can be pretty negative, but the rolling over and giving up completely makes me sick.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:43 pm to OBReb6
Thank you.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:57 pm to Wanderin Reb
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You guys are the ones saying we will NEVER COMPETE EVER BECAUSE WAOM IS ME.
Where did I say we will never compete? I certainly don't think we will for the near future (2-3 years). Are you talking about before Freeze retires? Yeah we'll probably win one in a 25-30 year time span. If Freeze is even here that long.
There are 5 other good coaches in this division and 4 of which will recruit better than Freeze on a year to year basis.
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Why even follow the team if you think it's incapable of being built into a winner?
That's laughable dude.
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TAMU - If this is one of your "should have wons" then you're crazy. Toss up game could go either way.
Yes we should have won it. Just like we should have won in 2012. You can call it a toss up game before the game starts but during both games we were dominating and lost it.
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State - Never is a "should win" in Starkville. It's a rivalry. The underdog will always play out of their minds.
They don't play their best player and QB for 3 quarters and we don't score an offensive touchdown the entire game yet it still took Dak and overtime to beat us. We should have one that game. We didn't.
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Top 15 classes are enough to compete in the SEC when combined with good coaching.
Again.. There are good coaches at every school in the SECw besides Arkansas. Even if you put Freeze in the same category as Miles, Sumlin and Malzhan (he's not in their category now FWIW) they are still going to recruit better than us on a year to year basis.
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I just think it's ridiculous to support a team you think will never be capable of winning its conference.
Again... fricking laughable
Maybe we should try to at least finish ahead of State in the SECw for the first time since 2009.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:58 pm to OBReb6
I'm not in the same category as Sorantable. He's doing his mopey thing and that's fine. I just think it's ridiculous for us to be talking about pumping out SECw titles based on anything we've seen so far. Y'all may perceive me as being negative but I'm trying to be objective and realistic.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:02 pm to UMRealist
Not really talking about you. I'm realistic as well, I just can't stand the mocking of people who have hope for the future. It's poison.
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