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re: Will a 3rd Party rise to prominence?

Posted on 3/26/15 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Ron and Rand are both loons.



Constitutional government is pretty loony, especially for a cop.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35619 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 2:51 pm to
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The only way would be over a long series of time starting small and rolling from state to state. We are talking election cycle after election cycle of small gains. I almost equate it to the only way for State and Ole miss to become big programs


The problem is that as soon as a third party gets momentum, one of the big parties will just co-opt their message.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:00 pm to
No. A stable, enduring third political party is highly unlikely to come into existence in the U.S.
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:27 pm to
I think there would have to be some sort of monumental american catastrophe to bring about that kind of change.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:43 pm to
No. Among other things, do you have any idea how expensive it is to own and operate a political party? The startup cost alone would prohibit the existence of a competitive third party.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:05 pm to
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It would take three things in order to happen.

1 - An incredible amount of money. Literally a couple of billion dollars that could be, without harassment or question, be put into building the political machine.

2 - An incredible personality, on a federal level, that could endear a large segment of our populace to the new party's philosophy.

... or, #3. Number three would be doable by forgetting the first two and simply staging a military or revolutionary coup on some level, forcibly.



You could start by dismantling the organization that determines who is allowed to participate in debates, which is owned and operated by the Democratic and Republican parties.

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:19 pm to
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Unless he gets caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy, you are correct.

Not that I'm a fan of him, but it is seriously his or the GOP's to screw up.



Walker/Rubio ticket has promise.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:23 pm to
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You could start by dismantling the organization that determines who is allowed to participate in debates, which is owned and operated by the Democratic and Republican parties.


You could ... but it would be like free speech, it would open up everything to tons of bullshite from a 1000 different directions and there would be unintended consequences.

Why does Rand always choose to debate with the GOP? If he really wanted to make headway, why not debate with the Libs?

Why did Perot debate with the GOP?

Why did Nader debate with the GOP?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:23 pm to
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Walker/Rubio ticket has promise.


Promise for what?

Not sure when politards like yourself are going to understand it doesn't matter if the red team wins or the blue.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:24 pm to
The
Only
Solution
Is
Another
Revolution
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Promise for what?

Not sure when politards like yourself are going to understand it doesn't matter if the red team wins or the blue.


Promise for change and promise for the ability to reverse some of the damage that's been done.

Not sure when little snot-nosed fricktards like yourself are going to understand everything matters, one way or the other, there will always be consequences. But when it comes to politics you always choose the lesser of evils with the hope they will frick up less shite than the obvious bad choice.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37618 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

The
Only
Solution
Is
Another
Revolution


And that will happen ... in time. It always does.

If it would happen now the good guys might have a chance to win ... but then what?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 3/26/15 at 5:35 pm to
quote:



Promise for change and promise for the ability to reverse some of the damage that's been done.

Not sure when little snot-nosed fricktards like yourself are going to understand everything matters, one way or the other, there will always be consequences. But when it comes to politics you always choose the lesser of evils with the hope they will frick up less shite than the obvious bad choice.


You don't get it.

Fortunately, a lot of people are getting it.

Red and blue team have the same agenda, grow government in unison with transnational corporations, while keeping the wheels turning for the banking cabal.

Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4855 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:21 am to
If left-libertarians and right-libertarians merged on the common ground that they share, they could possibly emerge as a third party.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:18 am to
If a Billionaire cared enough to spend all their money on the cause until a grassroots effort could sustain an election...then maybe

But it would take an extremely bold and motivated individual

Ross Perot
Ralph Nader
Monty Brewster
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 9:23 am to
blue team is taking the flight to destroying the country, The red team prefers the slow train ride to destruction.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260481 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:22 am to
Barring a monumental disaster, no. The two dominant parties work together to keep the status quo. This red/blue bullshite is just to rally cheerleaders who somehow think they are different from the other guys.
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