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re: Who would you rather see on the $20 bill?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:39 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:39 am to BluegrassBelle
Eleanor Roosevelt was a good person, but she certainly never risked her life for her causes. Harriet Tubman, born a slave, escaped slavery then spent years risking her life to free other slaves.
She is a great American hero and few people deserve this honor as much as she. As the Womenon20s website notes:
And all this while there was a bounty of $40,000 (about a million in today's dollars) on her head. She is a great role model for anyone.
She is a great American hero and few people deserve this honor as much as she. As the Womenon20s website notes:
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Soon, Tubman began her forays back into Dixie, rescuing siblings, nieces, strangers and, on her last trip, her aging parents. In 11 years of leading missions and guiding others in how to lead, she is believed to be responsible for the freedom of hundreds. She frequently outwitted her pursuers, using disguises and evasive tactics, later boasting she never lost a single passenger on the road to freedom. During the Civil War, Union soldiers, who had little knowledge of the country beyond their own small towns, relied on Tubman to guide them when poorly drawn and outdated maps could not. A gifted healer, Tubman also nursed the wounded.
And all this while there was a bounty of $40,000 (about a million in today's dollars) on her head. She is a great role model for anyone.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:43 am to Kentucker
Harry Truman on the front, mushroom cloud on the back.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:43 am to Kentucker
double post.
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:46 am to Kentucker
My argument would be that we can find thousands of men and women who showed physical courage. We don't put them on money. We put people who built our country and government on money. If people decide they want to do that then so be it but it is not the current standard.
Having said that we used to put all kinds of things on money, lady liberty, animals, indians, etc. So you can always argue for putting anything on.
Having said that we used to put all kinds of things on money, lady liberty, animals, indians, etc. So you can always argue for putting anything on.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:56 am to Patton
Honestly If this is what people are really concerned over nowadays. Thier lives are probably ok
But FWIW I vote Caitlyn Jenner
But FWIW I vote Caitlyn Jenner
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:37 am to GnashRebel
So slave owners on money is ok but not a former slave that freed and liberated many? Ole Miss logic.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:then wait for Scrooster
Would love to hear some of the anti-Tubman reasons, though
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:06 pm to Mansa Musa
Sigh.
All I am saying, since you clearly have not read all of my comments or your comprehension is as poor as it appears, is that it does not fit into the criteria that determined the current figures on US currency. People can do whatever they want. Your criteria is apparently, anybody who does nice things. So we can replace them all with whatever nice guy we want.
I think it is insulting to women, minorities, etc. that they don't even bother to look for women who have been major drivers of US government policy because they don't know the first thing about US history beyond the pictures they saw in their 7th grade Social Studies book.
All I am saying, since you clearly have not read all of my comments or your comprehension is as poor as it appears, is that it does not fit into the criteria that determined the current figures on US currency. People can do whatever they want. Your criteria is apparently, anybody who does nice things. So we can replace them all with whatever nice guy we want.
I think it is insulting to women, minorities, etc. that they don't even bother to look for women who have been major drivers of US government policy because they don't know the first thing about US history beyond the pictures they saw in their 7th grade Social Studies book.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Eleanor Roosevelt,
Did you forget to check your white privilege this morning?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:18 pm to PrivatePublic
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Did you forget to check your white privilege this morning?
She's actually known for some of her Civil Rights activism between resigning from the Daughters of the American Revolution (very publicly) when they denied Marian Anderson the use of Constitution Hall and helped arrange her performance on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial instead. She also arranged the appointment of Mary McLeod Bethune as the Director of Negro Affairs of the National Youth Administration. She worked with Pauli Murray (Brown vs Board of Education) on civil rights issues, flew with the Tuskegee Airmen in order to bring to public light their program.
I was checking my someone to represent a wide range of people privilege. Between her work with the UN, with FDR on the New Deal, the push for the acceptance of European refugees during the war, and etc she covers a pretty large swath of men and women of all races.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:21 pm to GnashRebel
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I think it is insulting to women, minorities, etc. that they don't even bother to look for women who have been major drivers of US government policy because they don't know the first thing about US history beyond the pictures they saw in their 7th grade Social Studies book.
Tubman was objectively a helluva individual. Yes there are a myriad of others whose exploits we'll never know about. That's been the case throughout world history, not just American, tbh. Does not diminish her actions in the slightest nor reflect poorly upon those who'd wish to recognize her in such a way.
I truly don't care whose face is on money or not, but that's kind of a silly reason to exclude her, IMO.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:25 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I didn't say she wasn't "a helluva individual." I said that we typically don't put people on money for being "a helluva individual." I know of war heroes who did crazier things than her but they don't need to be put on money, we have other honors for that.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:39 pm to GnashRebel
A good nation reaches out to all of the citizens who have constructed it. Tubman's contributions are monumental when her life as a whole is examined.
There should be no standard when honoring the people who make this country better. If we are indeed a nation of equal opportunity then we must give special accolades to those of us who refuse to accept a status quo of wrongs.
There should be no standard when honoring the people who make this country better. If we are indeed a nation of equal opportunity then we must give special accolades to those of us who refuse to accept a status quo of wrongs.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:40 pm to GnashRebel
Never said she or war heroes need to be put on money.
Just don't see a reason why not other than "that's not the way we typically do it."
Just don't see a reason why not other than "that's not the way we typically do it."
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:45 pm to Rebel Land Shark
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How about Obama instesd
I would actually love to see this just to see all of the melts. It would be epic.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:47 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Tubman was objectively a helluva individual. Yes there are a myriad of others whose exploits we'll never know about. That's been the case throughout world history, not just American, tbh. Does not diminish her actions in the slightest nor reflect poorly upon those who'd wish to recognize her in such a way.
I truly don't care whose face is on money or not, but that's kind of a silly reason to exclude her, IMO.
Yeah, Gnash is selling Tubman WAYYYYYY short here.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:54 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Yeah, Gnash is selling Tubman WAYYYYYY short here.
When did I criticize her actions? I simply said she is not the same kind of figure that we normally put on money. She is a heroic figure but not really a stateswoman. Franklin Roosevelt was not taking hills in WWII but he was an important statesman. Am I wrong?
And I have no issue with taking Jackson off the $20. He had some admirable qualities and did some amazing things all while suffering a horrible childhood. Having said that he was 100% my way or the highway and was complicit in one of the worst things the US government ever did and people said so at the time.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:01 pm to Patton
Harriet Tubman was a real SJW. A real one who repeatedly risked her life.
All Rosa Parks did was sit on the wrong bus seat and have a bad attitude one afternoon. She then became the cause celeb.
All Rosa Parks did was sit on the wrong bus seat and have a bad attitude one afternoon. She then became the cause celeb.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:02 pm to GnashRebel
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When did I criticize her actions?
Where did I say that you did?
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I simply said she is not the same kind of figure that we normally put on money.
So? Why does it matter if they put a non-governmental figure on money anyway? There is no rule that says that they have to.
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Franklin Roosevelt was not taking hills in WWII but he was an important statesman. Am I wrong?
No?
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