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re: What would the United States be like today if slavery had never occurred?

Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by Numberwang
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:04 pm to
We'd be like a more populated version of Australia, only better, because we have better resources and more Germans. In other words, we'd be a lot better.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:10 pm to
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SEC football would suck.




Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:24 pm to
Fried chicken? Yeah, because only black petite cook food in oil.

Blues, and the rock that followed, is definitely because of west African slaves, combining folk tunes with European instruments.

I will say, it does seem like the best music comes from oppressed people. The Irish hdd some damn good tunes. The Romani in eastern Europe too. I'm sure plenty other examples exist. I'm guessing if life sucks for an ethnic group and all they have for joy is music, it tends to be pretty damn good.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:27 pm to
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The Chinese say nín hao

I thought we were discussing slavery.


Prior to opening their economy in the late 1970s, the Chinese never stooped to paying their labor actual wages. They told them where to live, provided basic food and housing. Just enough to keep them healthy and working. When they got injured,sick, or old, they cast them aside. It was labor plus population control.

By any standard, the US South's slavery system was a drastic improvement over what China practiced just 50 years ago. Southern slave owners had massive financial investments in their slaves. If one got injured, died, or ran away, it was a major loss.

Not so in China. The Government had incentive to work them to death, because as soon as one man fell, there were two more waiting to take his place. I have been doing business with China for 12 years. I have spent a lot of time over there. The worst that we have ever done to our people is pale in comparison to what they consider SOP.

And to state the obvious: Despite centuries of a brutal warlord/serf system, modern slavery/forced labor, political repression, no basic human rights, and very limited social and politial freedoms, the Chinese people seem to have bounced back pretty well. You know, taking over the world and all that.

For some reason, despite access to far more resources, the victims of oppression here in the US have not seemed to flourish quite as well. Wonder what they difference is?
Posted by Carolina Tide
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
5747 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:33 pm to
I take this thread as a roundabout way of saying "you're welcome blacks" for slavery.
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28877 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 12:40 pm to
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I take this thread as a round about way of saying "you're welcome blacks" for slavery.




pretty much. but at least you don't live in Africa with the AIDS,Ebola, and low mortality rates right?


/notracist
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:06 pm to
Carolina Tide

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I take this thread as a roundabout way of saying "you're welcome blacks" for slavery.


Not at all. Perhaps you just want everything to have a racist angle. Perhaps not. I don't know you.

But the following quote was posted just a few minutes ago in the OT thread on the other board, and I must say that I totally agree with it...

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Biggest loss would be the good ol boy black guys. Seriously. If there is one group of people who as a whole are more trustworthy than others, conservative black guys.

Dudes stand by their convictions.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:14 pm to
The USA would be a lesser country because there would be no Tbirdspur living in it. Massive loss. Dim prospects. The horror.



















The horror.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:18 pm to
TbirdSpur2010

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The USA would be a lesser country because there would be no Tbirdspur living in it. Massive loss. Dim prospects. The horror.



Actually, I think you're wrong. I believe you or your family would've migrated here to seek a better life, became citizens the right way, and worked hard to either 1) be successful, or 2) prepare future generations to be successful.

America embraces that type of immigrant.

Tbird, you are the conservative black guy mentioned in the post above.



Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Biggest loss would be the good ol boy black guys. Seriously. If there is one group of people who as a whole are more trustworthy than others, conservative black guys.

Dudes stand by their convictions.


This statement makes no sense.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:28 pm to
No you would have migrated from Senegal or Zimbabwe eventually. Hell Toby, you would have a better chance getting drafted by the Leisure Suit if you stayed away.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:35 pm to
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would have a better chance getting drafted by the Leisure Suit if you stayed away.



Dammit!!! Could have been Timmy's teammate. Alas....
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:35 pm to
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Biggest loss would be the good ol boy black guys. Seriously. If there is one group of people who as a whole are more trustworthy than others, conservative black guys. Dudes stand by their convictions.


MontyFranklyn

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This statement makes no sense.



That statement makes a TON of sense, but I can see it not making sense to someone who has never met a black conservative good ole boy, soooo.....


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:36 pm to
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Biggest loss would be the good ol boy black guys. Seriously. If there is one group of people who as a whole are more trustworthy than others, conservative black guys.

Dudes stand by their convictions.


I don't get it. There are plenty of trustworthy liberal black people and devious conservative brothas.

And while I'm conservative, not sure I'd ever fall under the "good ol' boy" stereotype
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 1:37 pm
Posted by NCrawler
Sherwood
Member since Nov 2010
2152 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:37 pm to
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That statement makes a TON of sense, but I can see it not making sense to someone who has never met a black conservative good ole boy, soooo.....



Like this guy?

LINK
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:40 pm to
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And while I'm conservative, not sure I'd ever fall under the "good ol' boy" stereotype




You are the stereotype, Tbird.


Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:42 pm to
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That statement makes a TON of sense, but I can see it not making sense to someone who has never met a black conservative good ole boy, soooo.....

I'm a moderate conservative. The statement doesn't make sense because if slavery never occurred the conservative black male wouldn't serve a purpose to any whites in America. The only role they serve now is being a voice of reason in a unstable community of left leaning. You see, if there were no slavery America wouldn't be in the social economic condition it is today. Therefore it wouldn't be a need for whites to have a minority voice to identify with.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:48 pm to
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And while I'm conservative, not sure I'd ever fall under the "good ol' boy" stereotype


You like South Carolina Vanilla, Tbird.

Good ol' boy by default.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:49 pm to
I mean, I like country music and NASCAR, but also rap and basketball. I love Texas but have no accent ("don't know why" ). I dress both western (cowboy hats/boots) and urban/modern (flatbill hats etc.)

I'm a hybrid, don't really fit down the line of most stereotypes. Just have eclectic interests.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 1:52 pm to
TbirdSpur2010

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I mean, I like country music and NASCAR,


uhhhh....dude, you a black good ole boy

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but also rap and basketball


which, believe it or not good ole boys listen to as well...

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I love Texas


good ole boy

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but have no accent



yes you do. everyone has an accent.

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I dress both western (cowboy hats/boots)


good ole boy

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and urban/modern (flatbill hats etc.)


bullshite

quote:

I'm a hybrid, don't really fit down the line of most stereotypes


(coming from a black male) good ole boy

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Just have eclectic interests


good ole boy


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