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What do you think is the perfect government?
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:29 pm
Had a US History class a few semesters back with a teacher who was discussing democracy in class one day. He said that you could look back at other democracy's in history and see how they all ultimately self destructed. And that he could tell from looking at history that America was on the downhill side of our current democratic government.
So I asked him if democracy will inevitably fail, what did he think was the ideal government? To which he said of the governments man has come up with, that democracy is the best. It's just hard to believe that in the entire history of humanity, we haven't been able to come up with a better government that won't self destruct. But I guess I underestimate how humans can undermine the best of intentions...
So I asked him if democracy will inevitably fail, what did he think was the ideal government? To which he said of the governments man has come up with, that democracy is the best. It's just hard to believe that in the entire history of humanity, we haven't been able to come up with a better government that won't self destruct. But I guess I underestimate how humans can undermine the best of intentions...
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:31 pm to hawgfaninc
The one where I'm in charge of everyone.
I also think I should get everyone's money and I'll redistribute it fairly.
I also think I should get everyone's money and I'll redistribute it fairly.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:35 pm to Slippery Slope
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The one where I'm in charge of everyone.
I also think I should get everyone's money and I'll redistribute it fairly.
sounds good to me. you can be in charge of that country over there. and I'll be charge of this country over here
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:35 pm to Slippery Slope
Dictatorship since only one person makes decisions.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:35 pm to hawgfaninc
My country would destroy your country.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:39 pm to hawgfaninc
A government that keeps their god damned noses out of the affairs of other countries and doesn't violate the Constitution at every chance they get? Yeah, that'd be ideal.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:40 pm to Slippery Slope
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My country would destroy your country.
bring it bitch. tFlagship armada will go down swinging
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:44 pm to CatFan81
The constitution was written several years ago before airplanes and iPhones.
It's about time for a new one.
It's about time for a new one.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:49 pm to Slippery Slope
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:50 pm to Slippery Slope
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It's about time for a new one.
Amazing it has lasted this long really.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:53 pm to Duke
Some people in this country have a little trouble with letting go of the past.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 9:57 pm to Slippery Slope
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I also think I should get everyone's money and I'll redistribute it fairly.
If you guys do this shite RIGHT AFTER I pay off my Student Loan, I'm going to be PISSED!
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:00 pm to Slippery Slope
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Some people in this country have a little trouble with letting go of the past.
Can you imagine the shitshow if we tried to write a new constitution though?
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:03 pm to Duke
I'd just be like "oops we lost the constitution"
Or
"We've recently used some fancy new science that discovered that written in invisible ink was 'lol jk' across the page."
Or
"Offer expires in 100 years"
Or
"We've recently used some fancy new science that discovered that written in invisible ink was 'lol jk' across the page."
Or
"Offer expires in 100 years"
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:05 pm to hawgfaninc
Mankind has made no government yet that cannot be ruined by corruption
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:07 pm to Nimbus2000
bullshite. I'm incorruptible.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:07 pm to Nimbus2000
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Mankind has made no government yet that cannot be ruined by corruption
And never will.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:50 pm to hawgfaninc
You've done your best when people can't tell you've done anything at all.
The best government is the government that really doesn't have to do any governing.
Enforce contracts, have a judicial system to settle disputes, enforce contracts, combat fraud, and settle torts.
Build large infrastructure projects.
Provide for a national defense.
Set the rules for immigration and voting for national representatives.
Settle disputes between states and regulate commerce between states.
Protect free trade between states and between the country and all nations.
Protect private property rights so that people can be secure in their ability to profit from their enterprises.
Not much else is really needed.
With a strong legal system enforcing contracts and punishing fraud, the market will due much of the rest of the governing for us.
The best government is the government that really doesn't have to do any governing.
Enforce contracts, have a judicial system to settle disputes, enforce contracts, combat fraud, and settle torts.
Build large infrastructure projects.
Provide for a national defense.
Set the rules for immigration and voting for national representatives.
Settle disputes between states and regulate commerce between states.
Protect free trade between states and between the country and all nations.
Protect private property rights so that people can be secure in their ability to profit from their enterprises.
Not much else is really needed.
With a strong legal system enforcing contracts and punishing fraud, the market will due much of the rest of the governing for us.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:57 pm to CatFan81
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A government that keeps their god damned noses out of the affairs of other countries and doesn't violate the Constitution at every chance they get? Yeah, that'd be ideal.
This is true. But when most people make this statement they are thinking of physical involvement with other countries.
Unfortunately for the U.S. it goes much deeper. We have made our currency the world reserve, we make most oil bearing countries sell their oil in dollars, creating a false economy based on the petro dollar. When they deviate from this we attack (Operation Iraqi Freedom). We have created a monster that relies on physical intimidation and strength to keep other countries adhering to our mandate. If oil countries started selling in another currency, our dollar would collapse.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 10/31/13 at 12:14 am to CatFan81
We are political BFFs
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