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re: What do you guys think of Obama?

Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:39 pm to
A "community organizer" in further over his head than Gene Chizik at a Mensa meeting.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:40 pm to
Jimmy Carter is a total prick
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:40 pm to
Especially post-Presidency. He's gone whacko in recent years
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:40 pm to
Middle of the pack. Not a visionary but he's done some big things and hasn't screwed up too much. If the economy trends up as he leaves office he'll be remembered fondly by moderates and Democrats.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:40 pm to
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Jimmy Carter is a total prick


How dare you say that. He brokered the Hank-Cotton Peace Accord.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:41 pm to
There's nothing I hate more than a self-loathing apologetic Southerner
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:42 pm to
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There's nothing I hate more than a self-loathing apologetic Southerner



you and cat should date.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:42 pm to
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Jimmy Carter is a total prick



Maybe you're right, but at least he farmed peanuts.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:42 pm to
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Now we have the alahun... I mean far right wackos protesting



When you see this kind of stuff almost every week in some city, let me know.









Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:43 pm to
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There's nothing I hate more than a self-loathing apologetic Southerner


You sir, are a self loathing jew

I do hate myself, but it has nothing to do with being jewish!
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:45 pm to




Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:46 pm to
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There's not a lot of difference between the two
Mostly agree with that.

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No attack on Obama, by anyone, will ever approach the vitriol that spewed at Bush every second of his presidency
Well there was the whole Iraq thing
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260023 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:47 pm to
Oh yea, that's just awful stuff. Same level of vitriol.

Dude, those are tame compared to the anti Bush stuff.

I've also noticed my neighbors "another Democrat for peace" yard signs and bumper stickers are gone. Liberals think Obama is a failure. Party hacks are hanging with him.



This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:49 pm to
The vitriol is about equal, and Bush and Obama are about equal as Presidents, which is to say poor to terrible.

I will say some of the vitriol towards Bush was well earned given his illegal invasion of a sovereign country.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:49 pm to
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Well there was the whole Iraq thing

Actually there wasn't. Bush couldn't even walk down Pennsylvania Avenue on his inauguration (as is tradition) because of the out of control protesters.

And that was in 2000*


*technically it was early 2001, but it was pre-9/11, pre-Iraq War, etc etc
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28830 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:51 pm to
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I will say some of the vitriol towards Bush was well earned given his illegal invasion of a sovereign country.



i take more issue with his illegal invasion of his own sovereign nation.

but yes the two are pretty low on the totem pole in terms of recent presidents that don't suck.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260023 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:51 pm to
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I will say some of the vitriol towards Bush was well earned


Figures. But you don't care about drones killing innocents, bombing of Libya, etc.

Both are worthy of protest and were/are failures. Die hard party hacks will claim one is better than the other though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260023 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:53 pm to
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i take more issue with his illegal invasion of his own sovereign nation.


TSA, NSA, and other big government programs are what I hold against Bush. Obama isn't any different. He's expanded spying, killing innocent people with the drone program in nations we aren't at war with, etc.

Both are disappointments.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:53 pm to
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Actually there wasn't. Bush couldn't even walk down Pennsylvania Avenue on his inauguration
I'm not trying to defend that, but if Obama had lost the popular vote and the Supreme court had halted a states recount how do you think that would have gone over?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260023 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 4:54 pm to
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I'm not trying to defend that,


quote:


but if Obama had lost the popular vote and the Supreme court had halted a states recount how do you think that would have gone over?


Sure.
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