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re: The Rainbow Flag Is Now Flying Over Alabama

Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:23 am to
Economic reasons for starters. The South had gotten lazy from selling cotton and slaves, and had fallen way behind the North in infrastructure. As the soil got depleted, it became obvious that an economy based solely on free labor and cotton wasn't going to last forever.

When California became a state, they recognized the inevitable decline of the South's economy and decided they didn't want slavery in California.

Patriotic reasons also led to the decline of slavery. Unlike moral reasons which would dictate that slavery is an issue of basic human decency, people started to recognize the hypocrisy of the Declaration of Independence. The public started changing their ideas about slavery because they realized it was wrong as an American, not just as a human being.

Economic and patriotic reasons were actually far more effective in getting slavery abolished. We could go into a whole discussion about the differences among Abolishionists and Anti-Slavery proponents if you like. A lot of people think they're the same thing.
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:35 am to
How how much longer until weed is legal?!
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:38 am to
I understand your points completely.

I mean at the end of the day slavery is terrible and should have been ended on moral reasons alone, what you just detailed is the fed overstepping its boundaries on an economic level. Removing the moral ambiguity or slavery from the situation, the Fed should have let them succeed or fail on their economy's merit.

I would suspect that that's just something you and I would not agree on.
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 12:51 pm to
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So North Dakota should be able to infringe on the rights of some of its people because it's "good" for them?




States shouldn't be able to deny brothers/sisters, first cousins, etc. from marrying like they do now?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:47 pm to
Good for you! You can suck dicks legally.

Now explain why the rest of us should should give a frick?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:56 pm to
Not everyone is interested in civil rights, but some people are.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:57 pm to
What civil rights are included in marriage?
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:01 pm to
Where in The Constitution is marriage a guaranteed right for anyone?

Can you tell me the amendment?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:03 pm to
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What civil rights are included in marriage?





You remember when we captured and imprisoned all those buttfrickers from Buttfricker Land, sailed them back to America and forced them into slavery?


Remember that?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:08 pm to


Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:14 pm to
Just wait and see what we'll be doing in 30 years!!!!! What's illegal now will become taboo, and then eventually accepted and legalized.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:16 pm to
So you think civil rights means black rights?

I knew you were stupid, but damn son!
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:18 pm to
You're the one equating buttfrickers not getting married with slavery, not me.
Posted by mbogo
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Now explain why the rest of us should should give a frick?




Because not giving a frick is why we're where we are now.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:21 pm to
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Because not giving a frick is why we're where we are now.

Where we are now?

Life is great. Sorry yours sucks so bad. Literally sucks I suppose.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:21 pm to
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You're the one equating buttfrickers not getting married with slavery, not me.


Now you're the third person in this thread to fail to understand a simple argument.
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:23 pm to
SEC! SEC! SEC!
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:25 pm to
Frick the federal government.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:51 pm to
Why do some people hate gays so much and want to control their lives and restrict their rights? Whats the argument for these hateful people? I could not care less, their gay lives dont impact me on a daily basis. In fact 99% of the impact i hear about gays is when some angry person on the internet is trying to make some backwards argument about why the government should allow it, instead of why the government should disallow it. If you are going to control some ones rights, the same rights you give to other people, the burden of proof is on you.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 1/24/15 at 2:53 pm to
What Constitutional Right have they been denied up to today?

quote:

the burden of proof is on you
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