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re: The childhood obesity epidemic has become shocking
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:06 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:06 am to Roger Klarvin
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340 pound 8 year old
I'm skeptical.
Did you mean 240?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:06 am to cokebottleag
It's really not hard to buy chicken breasts and porkchops, pasta, fruits and vegetables, and fresh bread. You know, instead of McDonald's and Taco Bell and cheetos and donuts. That's the only difference here. Healthier options are available. These 400 pound cattle are either ONLY buying junk at the grocery store or eating fast food every single meal. It's not because of limited options, or Coca-Colas. It's laziness and stupidity and American excess.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:10 am to genro
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It's really not hard to buy chicken breasts and porkchops, pasta, fruits and vegetables, and fresh bread.
It's best to avoid pastas, red meat, dairy and breads as much as possible. Chicken, seafood, fruits, vegetables (not potatoes) and water should be the overwhelming majority of what goes into a healthy diet.
90% of the grains produced for our marketplace are fricking trash. White bread is literally one of the worst things a person can eat.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 12:12 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:12 am to Cockopotamus
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I'm skeptical.
Did you mean 240?
Nope
Here's a 400 pound 7 year old
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 12:13 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:13 am to Roger Klarvin
Isn't there a genetic predisposition?
I was a hefty lad for most of my life, and I'd be enormous today if I still ate the way we ate growing up, but no one in my family has ever had a diabetic problem.
I was a hefty lad for most of my life, and I'd be enormous today if I still ate the way we ate growing up, but no one in my family has ever had a diabetic problem.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:13 am to Roger Klarvin
I'm trying to be reasonable. You can't convert these trashy frickers into health nuts. Just try to get them to stop eating junk all the time.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:15 am to genro
I agree, just diet raging right now
I have parents tell me they think they are maing healthy decisions by giving their kids whole milk and juice instead of soda
I have parents tell me they think they are maing healthy decisions by giving their kids whole milk and juice instead of soda
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:16 am to Roger Klarvin
Goddamn. I couldn't picture an 8 year old's body holding that much weight.
Thanks for robbing me of that
Thanks for robbing me of that
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:18 am to PowerTool
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Isn't there a genetic predisposition?
Sure, and some people can be fat their whole lives and never develop diabetes. There also many TOFI individuals (Thin outside, fat inside) who have all the health problems of fatties without the weight because of visceral fat.
The fact is however people don't get to be 300+ pounds due to genetics.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:20 am to Roger Klarvin
Please link a study on the juice, I'd like to read it.
And surgeon general's warnings for food is idiotic. Considering we are in the middle of 40 years of FDA guidelines on salt being overturned, if we go that route we'll eventually have warning labels on pasta. That's pointless.
Not to mention how much money there is to be made in drumming up fear of various kinds of food. Organic food companies love to find studies telling all the tin-foil hypgnosis brigade about how evil GMO and non-organic food is.
And surgeon general's warnings for food is idiotic. Considering we are in the middle of 40 years of FDA guidelines on salt being overturned, if we go that route we'll eventually have warning labels on pasta. That's pointless.
Not to mention how much money there is to be made in drumming up fear of various kinds of food. Organic food companies love to find studies telling all the tin-foil hypgnosis brigade about how evil GMO and non-organic food is.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:21 am to Cockopotamus
It's definitely depressing
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:30 am to cokebottleag
The research on fruit juice consumption in children is extensive. Here's a good research abstract showing that anything more than very moderate amounts of fruit juice has a strong correlation with growth problems, obesity and insulin resistance:
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While this study recommends less than 12 ounces a day, that is from 1997. The current evidence leads most pediatricians to recommend no juice in the first year of life and less than 36 ounces a week for children in general.
And here's a study on the poor dental outcomes associated with fruit juices:
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LINK
While this study recommends less than 12 ounces a day, that is from 1997. The current evidence leads most pediatricians to recommend no juice in the first year of life and less than 36 ounces a week for children in general.
And here's a study on the poor dental outcomes associated with fruit juices:
LINK
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:34 am to cokebottleag
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And surgeon general's warnings for food is idiotic. Considering we are in the middle of 40 years of FDA guidelines on salt being overturned, if we go that route we'll eventually have warning labels on pasta. That's pointless.
The correlation between diabetes/obesity and sodas is staggering, and that between cancer and sodas is becoming stronger and stronger with each passing year. It is now believed that excess sugar intake is as big a risk factor for pancreatic cancer as smoking.
It's gonna happen, for better or worse. The only reason sodas wont reach the level of social disdain as tobacco has is one, there is no second hand effect and two, sugar is more addictive than nicotine.
And this coming from someone who loves Dr. Pepper.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:45 am to Roger Klarvin
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The current evidence leads most pediatricians to recommend no juice in the first year of life and less than 36 ounces a week for children in general.
Nothing like the advice given by our pediatrician.
Found a study on one of the links tot he side bar. Its more recent (not that that makes a difference), and the method and sample size seems to be better.
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The study you linked (and several others that compliment its findings) are a really small sample size of 168 kids.
The study above is over 1160 children and concludes there is no statistical difference for kids based on juice or milk consumption.
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There was no clinically significant association between the types of milk (percentage of fat) consumed and weight status. In analysis of covariance, daily total energy intake increased with increased consumption of milk, 100% fruit juice, fruit drinks, and soda. However, there was not a statistically significant increase in BMI on the basis of quantity of milk, 100% fruit juice, fruit drink, or soda consumed.
No offense personally, but the more and more I read about what is put forth as accepted science with pediatrics, food, and pregnancy, the more I am convinced our scientific research in the country is a total waste of money.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 12:48 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:43 am to Roger Klarvin
Ok. So grape juice is bad, but what about grape drink?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:48 am to Masterag
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Ok. So grape juice is bad, but what about grape drink?
Grape drink is the white man keeping you down, dude.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:07 am to Masterag
Codeine is a shitty high anyway.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:47 am to cokebottleag
Back in my day, you young whipper snappers, processed food was about all anyone ate, unless you lived on a farm.
Every kid in my school and in my neighborhood drank ridiculous amounts of soda, pop tarts for breakfast, processed evil white bread on their sandwiches, sweet tea at dinner, and various sources of junk food at someone's house at any given time that you could gorge on.
How many people were fat? Hell I wasn't running an experiment at the time so I didn't collect that much data, but going off memory, elementary through high school, I simply don't remember many fat people. At the moment, I can't remember any. I remember a couple of chubby people, but I can't even think of a straight-up fatass in school, like obese.
The difference is we exercised? I can tell you we certainly weren't all getting apple slices in our happy meals and if you drank diet coke you were a fig.
Every kid in my school and in my neighborhood drank ridiculous amounts of soda, pop tarts for breakfast, processed evil white bread on their sandwiches, sweet tea at dinner, and various sources of junk food at someone's house at any given time that you could gorge on.
How many people were fat? Hell I wasn't running an experiment at the time so I didn't collect that much data, but going off memory, elementary through high school, I simply don't remember many fat people. At the moment, I can't remember any. I remember a couple of chubby people, but I can't even think of a straight-up fatass in school, like obese.
The difference is we exercised? I can tell you we certainly weren't all getting apple slices in our happy meals and if you drank diet coke you were a fig.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:41 am to five_fivesix
Do you think it is 100% the responsibility of children? Do you excuse those making this "food" completely?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 6:59 am to Roger Klarvin
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a 12 year old with a stroke
Damn
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a 340 pound 8 year old.
Double damn
I'm sure soda ain't the only problem.
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