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Spinoff Thread: Thoughts on marriage
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:17 pm
Since it's come up a couple times in the Pigfeet thread and others, I'm curious as to the OTB's opinion.
Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
If you don't, why not? I see the term archaic thrown around a lot and am curious as to why some think that applies.
*FWIW, I'm going with marriage as recognized by the government in order to include non-religious unions/marriages by your local Justice of the Peace.
Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
If you don't, why not? I see the term archaic thrown around a lot and am curious as to why some think that applies.
*FWIW, I'm going with marriage as recognized by the government in order to include non-religious unions/marriages by your local Justice of the Peace.
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
Yes.
Pigfeet is a tPOS
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
It's definitely serious to me.
I can't help it if millions of other people aren't taking it seriously. But it really doesn't affect the "seriousness" of my marriage.
I can't help it if millions of other people aren't taking it seriously. But it really doesn't affect the "seriousness" of my marriage.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:23 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
Yes, but it's not a big deal to me if other couples don't believe in marriage.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
Yes
I also said that traditional concepts of marriage is archaic and oppressive.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:28 pm to Pigfeet
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I also said that traditional concepts of marriage is archaic and oppressive.
Like?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
A. Marriage is the single most important societal structure.
B. Sometimes it sucks. The fact that it sometimes sucks in no way changes A.
B. Sometimes it sucks. The fact that it sometimes sucks in no way changes A.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:32 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Do you think marriage is still a valid institution today?*
And I just realized I didn't answer my own question. I think it's very much still valid today. But too many people jump in for all the wrong reasons and take their vows with a grain of salt. That doesn't lessen it's seriousness for me.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:33 pm to BluegrassBelle
I'm not married. But I think each couple has the right to determine what parameters in which they wish their marriage to exist. If both husband and wife agree on an open marriage, then that's cool.
I don't buy cheating on your wife then justifying it by saying you don't believe in traditional marriage, unless everything is out in the open and both parties are clear as to what the other's intentions are.
I don't buy cheating on your wife then justifying it by saying you don't believe in traditional marriage, unless everything is out in the open and both parties are clear as to what the other's intentions are.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
I think marriage is valid for raising children, and if both partners believe they are doing something greater than themselves.
I don't think traditional marriage is archaic or oppressive. Marriage by its very nature is supposed to oppress a sorry-assed human's base desires so they don't go fricking the next best thing that walks by and smiles. Its supposed to discipline our baser instincts and create commitment rewards for otherwise extremely selfish creatures.
I don't think traditional marriage is archaic or oppressive. Marriage by its very nature is supposed to oppress a sorry-assed human's base desires so they don't go fricking the next best thing that walks by and smiles. Its supposed to discipline our baser instincts and create commitment rewards for otherwise extremely selfish creatures.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:42 pm to BluegrassBelle
Getting married was the best decision of my life. I love it. Others can do or not do as they like.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:55 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Like?
I would love to really get into this discussion on my views about marriage, but I'm extremely tired and I know I won't be able to explain it the way I want to.
To try and put it as simple as possible, I would describe it as my wife is my friend, we have a lot of fun together, don't share bank accts, have our own children (she's not step-mom and I'm not step-dad), don't wear rings, separate insurance, etc.
I, as she, do what we want when we want. We've always said that if the other one hooks up that neither one of us really wants to know, just that we are safe about it.
Our day to day issues aren't any different than the traditional married folks.
We grabbed a marriage license so we could utilize the laws in our favor.
We love each other but sex on the side is just booty on the side. She or I can leave at anytime, all of our assets are protected.
Sorry for the rambling and being all over the place, but I am tired and need a quick nap. Gotta party here in a few.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
Excellent.
Just read a nice missive on the topic here:
Return of Kings: The Marriage Paradigm
Thing about articles on ROK is that the comments are insightful and informative.
Take a look for the 'male' side of the issue.
Marriage can work if the man stays masculine and the woman feminine.
It's when the men stop leading or the women try to be men that marriages most often fail.
We can thank the false teachings of feminism for that in large part.
Just read a nice missive on the topic here:
Return of Kings: The Marriage Paradigm
Thing about articles on ROK is that the comments are insightful and informative.
Take a look for the 'male' side of the issue.
Marriage can work if the man stays masculine and the woman feminine.
It's when the men stop leading or the women try to be men that marriages most often fail.
We can thank the false teachings of feminism for that in large part.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And I just realized I didn't answer my own question. I think it's very much still valid today. But too many people jump in for all the wrong reasons and take their vows with a grain of salt. That doesn't lessen it's seriousness for me.
Best you're gonna get from this thread. It's a really good thing for about a third of people who do it.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:25 pm to Pigfeet
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We've always said that if the other one hooks up that neither one of us really wants to know, just that we are safe about it.
So this has never actually happened, to your knowledge? And why would you feel strange talking about it if it were to happen?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:27 pm to WNCTiger
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We can thank the false teachings of feminism for that in large part.
I dunno. "Dan" in your link isn't doing himself any favors moping over his wife's "thick thighs" and Shake N Bake.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
Without a doubt it's valid but it depends in who holds the covenant.
I made a promise to my bride before her, our family, our friends, and God himself.
I made a promise to my bride before her, our family, our friends, and God himself.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:30 pm to WNCTiger
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Marriage can work if the man stays masculine and the woman feminine.
Does this mean women aren't allowed of the kitchen?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:33 pm to Pigfeet
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Pigfeet
So, your "marriage" is really just a piece of paper.
I'm sorry.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
I love my wife with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns.
Beyond THAT, I am committed to her and making it work.
I am atheist, so it is not a "promise to God thing" with me.
IF...and, it is an incomprehensibly big IF...it were to all fall apart tomorrow, my marriage would STILL have been worth it.
So, put me in the "valid" column.
Beyond THAT, I am committed to her and making it work.
I am atheist, so it is not a "promise to God thing" with me.
IF...and, it is an incomprehensibly big IF...it were to all fall apart tomorrow, my marriage would STILL have been worth it.
So, put me in the "valid" column.
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