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re: Silicon Valley Libertarians turning to Neoreactionary beliefs.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:26 pm to GoBigOrange86
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:26 pm to GoBigOrange86
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Besides, none of this is a problem if people are engaged with the political process. But they aren't
True. It's easier to blame the system than take responsibility for your own involvement. Start with your local level. You can do so much more there than you can at the national level. The federal system is set up to be stagnant and time consuming.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 2:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Moneyed interest has been, will always be involved in American politics.
It wasn't always as easy to buy a Senator or Representative.
It is now.
The lack of moral courage in our representatives in Washington is the nexus of the issue. Not money in politics.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:14 pm to the808bass
Lots of disdain for money funneled to politicians in this thread, but money-corruption in politics runs both ways. The rich corrupt politics by giving money to politicians, the poor do the same by voting in politicos who give them money/benefits.
If you don't think corporations should be able to donate money to politics, then they shouldn't be taxed either. Taxation without representation was a pretty big deal in this country at one point. Since corporations can't vote, how else can they affect their tax dollars?
If you don't think corporations should be able to donate money to politics, then they shouldn't be taxed either. Taxation without representation was a pretty big deal in this country at one point. Since corporations can't vote, how else can they affect their tax dollars?
Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:16 pm to cokebottleag
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If you don't think corporations should be able to donate money to politics, then they shouldn't be taxed either. Taxation without representation was a pretty big deal in this country at one point. Since corporations can't vote, how else can they affect their tax dollars?
Historically, no taxation without representation has only been applicable to individuals. Your point hinges on the (contestable) assumption that a corporation is the legal equivalent of a person.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:42 pm to Crimson G
So, campaign finance reform aside....
I'm intrigued by the phenomenon of neo reactionaries right now.
The Purpose of Reactionaries
I'm intrigued by the phenomenon of neo reactionaries right now.
The Purpose of Reactionaries
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:49 pm to Crimson G
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I would say ideally, Marxism or philosopher king rule both sound great-- much better than what we have.
Of course you say that, you're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 9:59 pm to wmr
I find it interesting that apparently most neoreactionaries are former libertarians, and yet this article promotes the marginalization of people for making individual choices (like having sexual reassignment surgery). It's as if they've put their idea of utility above all else, including liberty. It's odd because my first reaction is to cry "tyranny of the majority" á la John Stewart Mill; however, I suppose in their societies, rule won't be by the majority, but rather by the select few. Just so many oddities.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:02 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Have you even read The Communist Manifesto or The Republic in full? I'm not trying to be a pedantic dick, but it's absurd how people will trash them without ever reading them.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:05 pm to Crimson G
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Have you even read The Communist Manifesto or The Republic in full? I'm not trying to be a pedantic dick, but it's absurd how people will trash them without ever reading them.
Yes, I have read both. I also have real world experience, which is far more valuable.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:07 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Forgive me if I don't believe you.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:10 pm to Crimson G
Well, "reactionary" implies a reaction to the present progressivism. It always has. I admit to feeling a certain affinity for a lot of what I read on neo-reactionary blogs. Not all, but I identify with lots of it. I am not religious, but I see value in tradition and I value truth.
Its interesting to me to see young people approach these ideas apart from dogma and religion.
Its interesting to me to see young people approach these ideas apart from dogma and religion.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:16 pm to Slippery Slope
Because he's a pedantic dick.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:17 pm to Crimson G
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Historically, no taxation without representation has only been applicable to individuals. Your point hinges on the (contestable) assumption that a corporation is the legal equivalent of a person.
And for tax purposes, many corporations and people are interchangeable. LLCs and S-corps are pass-through entities, so there's not a distinguishable difference between the person and the corporation for tax purposes.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:20 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Because he's a pedantic dick.
And he's read the Republic. Which noooo one else has evvvveeeeeerrrrr reaaaaaaaddddd. Soooo smaaaaaartttt.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:23 pm to Slippery Slope
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Then why fricking ask?
To fap furiously to his own intelligence. He got smug everywhere.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:23 pm to the808bass
have you even read 1984? fricking watchdog gov't takeover.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Some Greek chick with a philosophy degree from Wesleyan chewed up the republic and fed it to me like I was a baby bird.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:27 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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have you even read 1984? fricking watchdog gov't takeover.
No. But I "like" Reason.com on Facebook. Which is pretty much the same thing, I think.
Posted on 5/27/14 at 10:28 pm to Slippery Slope
Ever heard of a rhetorical question (Hint: I don't care what your answer is)? This country is plagued by anti-intellectualism. To quote Asimov,
I'm constantly reminded of this truth any time an evolution or political thread is started here. It's near impossible to have an affable discussion about different ideologies, because simply implying that Marx might had some good ideas results in responses like "of course you do, you're a fricking idiot" by a guy with a Teddy Bear avatar.
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Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'
I'm constantly reminded of this truth any time an evolution or political thread is started here. It's near impossible to have an affable discussion about different ideologies, because simply implying that Marx might had some good ideas results in responses like "of course you do, you're a fricking idiot" by a guy with a Teddy Bear avatar.
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