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re: Sandy Hook Shooting

Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:14 pm to
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I laugh at this


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So, if someone "created" Sandy Hook, or the "media" tried to "push a gun control agenda", it certainly had the opposite effect


I never said anyone "created" it. Just that it lost it's national press appeal when gun control failed. Just like the press appeal is lost on the Navy yard shooting once it was discovered a shotgun and handgun was used by someone who was not a right wing W.A.S.P. If the media on a national level, can't use something to demonize legal gunowners, it's a quick turnaround on the story and not much time is spent on it.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19288 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:43 am to
Sandy Hook happened just like it's been described in the media. If you think all those children killed were fakes, I am sure you believe the US government flew those planes into the Twin Towers on 9/11, too.

Maybe you should hire some investigative reporter to go dig up all those children's graves to see if their bodies are REALLY there? Would that be definitive enough for you?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:46 am to
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Just like the press appeal is lost on the Navy yard shooting once it was discovered a shotgun and handgun was used by someone who was not a right wing W.A.S.P.


Yeah, as soon as I saw the shooter was black, I knew that one would blow over in just a couple of days.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:47 am to
Well it's odd that they say he used an AR-15 when they found the rifle in his trunk. Also if you go on YouTube and look at that fire station people were just walking in a giant circle all day. They never released the bullet ballistics or autopsy reports and it has been argued that actors were used in the shooting. Something is just off about it.
Posted by Oxford Town
Member since Jan 2011
513 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:25 am to
There is nothing "off". A crazy person shot up a bunch of children and they are dead and the shooter is dead. I don't understand what is so "off". The fire house was a staging area for the parents. Maybe they were walking in circles a lot that day to calm their nerves. Do you really think this was giant crime scene was staged by a bunch of actors?
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:30 am to
Quit drinking the kool-aid and wake up. I didn't say that kids were not killed. Things called context clues should have given you that much. But to sit there and say you do not see any discrepancies in the story your a fricking idiot. Don't believe cnn, fox, msnbc, etc. They are the "news" agencies that just read you the latest government memo.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:38 am to
Nobody is just walking in circles. That video just loops like 10 seconds of footage over and over and hopes you're too stupid to notice. Congrats.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:40 am to
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Well it's odd that they say he used an AR-15 when they found the rifle in his trunk.


That is a fabrication made up in the conspiracy theory Youtube videos. The state police are on record saying he used the AR-15 to kill everyone in the school, a handgun to take his own life, and they found a shotgun in the trunk of his car.

I watched the Youtube video and the image they claim to prove it is the Ar-15 in the trunk is very grainy and you can't even begin to make out the model of the gun.
Posted by Oxford Town
Member since Jan 2011
513 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:41 am to
I'm not the one drinking the Crazy-Aid dude, you are. So what do you believe happened? Please educated me, because all the inconstancies I have seen have been debunked.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 10:58 am to
Well when it first happened the news was reporting he was using pistols. Now I'm not sure how experienced you are with firearms and what bullet impacts look like but I can tell you no police investigator would have mistaken a 5.56x45 AR-15 round for a pistol cartridge. If they did make that mistake they are the worst crime-scene unit in the country.

If there were only a constant video feed of the fire station and the people.

Why have we seen only one picture of kids being led away from the school?

Again like I said I am not arguing that people and kids were not killed, never said that it didn't happened. I just think there are some things that just don't seem right.


Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:12 am to
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Maybe you should hire some investigative reporter to go dig up all those children's graves to see if their bodies are REALLY there? Would that be definitive enough for you?


I made sure to state in the OP that I am not some conspiracy nut job, just that it seems like a lot of things were left unexplained or unanswered.

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Sandy Hook happened just like it's been described in the media.


That is where you are wrong. The media (liberal and conservative) molds things in favor of whatever their agenda is, and often times is straight up dishonest. To believe things happened "just like it's been described in the media" in any situation is naive.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:25 am to
Have any of you ever been on the scene of something like Sandy Hook? Maybe not on that scale, but any type of tragedy that gets immediate press coverage? I was in Centennial Park in 96 when the bomb went off. It was utter chaos for hours afterwards, and the amount of misinformation I received was staggering looking back on it. In today's media world, they're all guilty of trying to be the first to report something, so having been in a similar situation, I can easily see how misinformation gets reported in today's media. It's irresponsible, but unless you've experienced it, it's hard to appreciate how much information you're getting fed which may be true or not true.

To even think every media outlet that descended on Sandy Hook was complicit in some huge cover up is utterly ridiculous. Are there things that haven't been explained? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean there's some grand conspiracy.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51272 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 1:42 pm to
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your a fricking idiot


Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 2:18 pm to
and the movement toward gun control melted away. People talk and nothing is done
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62773 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 11:28 pm to
does all media get all stories fully correct? of course not. Are there some biases in the reporting? Of course. both sides.
but for folks to believe that these tragedies were staged and acted out is utterly ridiculous.
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