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re: Refs just robbed me of my money
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:21 pm to 2close2Gainesville
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:21 pm to 2close2Gainesville
quote:problem is i thought it was a fumble at the time and the ref threw the flag after the fact. Like i said, God trolled me hardcore tonight. I went from knowing the game was over and i had lost the bet, to omg they just covered on the last play of the game, to wtf are you kidding me
Well, that's an in-completion, or illegal forward pass. That's the rules, not the refs rules. If it went forward and bounced, in-complete, and illegal forward pass once they were past the line of scrimmage. What the problem?
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:22 pm to 2close2Gainesville
He's talking about past the LOS retards
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:29 pm to ChexMix
I didn't see the play, but ya if they were already past the line of scrimmage, and pitched it and it went forward, illegal forward pass, and if it hit the ground, in-complete.
Had the receiver caught it before it hit the ground, still illegal forward pass.
Had the defender caught it in the air, and ran it back, still illegal forward pass, think it would still be a dead ball, but not real sure I have ever seen that. Anyone?
Had the receiver caught it before it hit the ground, still illegal forward pass.
Had the defender caught it in the air, and ran it back, still illegal forward pass, think it would still be a dead ball, but not real sure I have ever seen that. Anyone?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:32 pm to 2close2Gainesville
quote:Yes, i realize its an illegal forward pass, but at the time i thought it was a fumble
Well, that's an in-completion, or illegal forward pass. That's the rules, not the refs rules. If it went forward and bounced, in-complete, and illegal forward pass once they were past the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:33 pm to 2close2Gainesville
quote:if its caught and ran back, then the TD would have stood and the penalty could have been declined.
Had the defender caught it in the air, and ran it back, still illegal forward pass, think it would still be a dead ball, but not real sure I have ever seen that. Anyone?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:34 pm to 2close2Gainesville
Once they are past the line of scrimmage, if the ball is thrown forward, the play is immediately dead. Also, if they are behind the LOS, the ball is thrown forward and then thrown forward again, the play is dead.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:37 pm to ChexMix
My understanding is that an illegal forward pass is equivalent to being tackled with a five yard penalty/loss of down tacked on.
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:40 pm to harmonics
quote:if it is caught by the same team. If the opposing team catches the illegal pass, then its an interception and the penalty may be declined.
My understanding is that an illegal forward pass is equivalent to being tackled with a five yard penalty/loss of down tacked on.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:42 pm to ChexMix
It was an in-completion first, then an illegal forward past, since it hit the ground. In-completion can not be recovered as a fumble.
Had the receiver caught it, it would be an illegal forward pass.
Had a defender caught an illegal forward pass in air, past the line of scrimmage, I think it would have been a dead ball, that's the part I'm not sure about.
If it's a dead ball, there is no penalty to decline, play is dead.
Had the receiver caught it, it would be an illegal forward pass.
Had a defender caught an illegal forward pass in air, past the line of scrimmage, I think it would have been a dead ball, that's the part I'm not sure about.
If it's a dead ball, there is no penalty to decline, play is dead.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:43 pm to ChexMix
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If the opposing team catches the illegal pass, then its an interception
What I am saying is that as soon as the ball is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage, it doesn't matter what happens. The play is dead at that spot on the field as soon as the ball is thrown. It's an illegal play, so the progress of it is eliminated and a penalty is enforced.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:45 pm to harmonics
quote:The Qb passed the ball behind the line of scrimmage to the WR.. It was a hook and ladder play where the Wr caught it, then was hit when he went to pitch the ball and the ball went forward. Initially, I thought the hit had caused it and it was a fumble...buuuut the refs felt differently
What I am saying is that as soon as the ball is thrown beyond the line of scrimmage, it doesn't matter what happens. The play is dead at that spot on the field as soon as the ball is thrown. It's an illegal play, so the progress of it is eliminated and a penalty is enforced.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:48 pm to ChexMix
Yeah I see what you are saying, was a judgement call be the officials. I didn't see the play, so I don't know. Just saying, if the refs ruled it was an illegal froward pass, then it doesn't matter if the ball being thrown was caught for a TD or a pick-6. The play was dead as soon as ol' boy threw the ball. 
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:52 pm to ChexMix
Ok, well that makes more sense, if he was about to pitch it, then got hit, and it looked like a fumble, but the the ball went forward.
Just like a QB when ball is swatted during a pass. If his hand looks like it is going forward and the ball goes forward, or is out before his hand goes forward and the ball still goes in front of him.
See what I mean? I guess I see what you're saying. Didn't see the play, though.
Just like a QB when ball is swatted during a pass. If his hand looks like it is going forward and the ball goes forward, or is out before his hand goes forward and the ball still goes in front of him.
See what I mean? I guess I see what you're saying. Didn't see the play, though.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:01 am to 2close2Gainesville
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2close2Gainesville
Your avi/sig are great.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 12:10 am to harmonics
Oh, and word of advice to OP, wait at least 3 or 4 weeks before betting on cf. You can recognize tendencies on certain teams better and helps improve your odds.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 7:38 am to ChexMix
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and pitches the ball forward
That's an incompletion dumbass! Why would you think anything else. You do know a shuttle pass is underhanded yet if the back drops it ITS AN INCOMPLETION! Right?!
Quit betting, you still don't even have a grasp on the rules. Buy a hooker with daddy's money instead.
BTW...bet the house on Missouri this weekend. Won't be close after the 1st.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 7:49 am
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:10 am to PrivatePublic
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Don't gamble if you're going to bitch when you lose.
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:18 am to ChexMix
how the hell was arizona only a 7 point favorite?
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:21 am to heartbreakTiger
UTSA don't play 
Posted on 9/5/14 at 8:22 am to harmonics
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Yeah I see what you are saying, was a judgement call be the officials. I didn't see the play, so I don't know. Just saying, if the refs ruled it was an illegal froward pass, then it doesn't matter if the ball being thrown was caught for a TD or a pick-6. The play was dead as soon as ol' boy threw the ball.
Nope. LINK
Rule 8, Section 1, Article 2
Item 2: Intercepted Illegal Pass. If an illegal pass is caught or intercepted, the ball may be advanced and the penalty declined.
NFL, I'll try and find college. Pretty sure it's the same.
This post was edited on 9/5/14 at 8:26 am
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