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re: Question about the way we see veterans

Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:27 pm to
Men and women in our military go where they are sent. Whether thats into harms way or to Minot north Dakota. They are dedicated to protecting the freedoms we have regardless.
Posted by ghusbhus
Your wife’s vag
Member since Mar 2015
772 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:25 pm to
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This may get massively down voted


And it should. Mostly because you're an a-hole, but also because you made a snide fricking post behind the veil of the internet about a group of people that could beat the frick out of you.

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how can we say they are defending our freedoms when they are serving in the Middle East?


The same way we can tell a 92A, 92G, 36B, 73C, and 42R that they are defending our freedoms.

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They aren't defending our soil as much as being utalized by our government for power.


So what? The military acts on your behalf per the orders of people that you elect. They do so at considerable risk to their own lives, for very little pay.

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What is your opinion?


My opinion is that you're a douchebag.

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What of our freedom is in Iraq?


The freedom for you to shut the frick up, pussy.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 1:34 pm to
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how can we say they are defending our freedoms when they are serving in the Middle East? They aren't defending our soil as much as being utalized by our government for power


Location Location Location

Hear ye, Hippie- The world waxes and wanes. Nothing ever stays the same. Having the most mobile Military is what makes our country the strongest. You can't just hole up and hope others don't try to frick you, because that's all EVERYONE wants to do.

Think of the war on radical Islam as the outside fence.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15343 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 2:33 pm to
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The world waxes and wanes.


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Think of the war on radical Islam as the outside fence.


Wahhabism

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It has been variously described as "ultraconservative",[7] "austere",[3] "fundamentalist",[8] or "puritan(ical)"[9][10] and as an Islamic "reform movement" to restore "pure monotheistic worship"


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The alliance between followers of ibn Abd al-Wahhab and Muhammad bin Saud's successors (the House of Saud) proved to be a durable one. The House of Saud continued to maintain its politico-religious alliance with the Wahhabi sect through the waxing and waning of its own political fortunes over the next 150 years, through to its eventual proclamation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1932, and then afterwards, on into modern times. Today Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab's teachings are the official, state-sponsored form of Sunni Islam[3][32] in Saudi Arabia.[33] With the help of funding from Saudi petroleum exports[34] (and other factors[35]), the movement underwent "explosive growth" beginning in the 1970s and now has worldwide influence.[3]


This is our ally in the region. The most extreme version of islam.

Wars arent about religion, that is propaganda for the idiot pawns, wars are about the competition and distribution of resources.




QUICK HITTER DISCUSSING SAUDI vs IRAN proxy war
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:51 pm to
I'm well aware of Wahhabism.

We try to Ally with everyone. That's why our "Allies" run planes into buildings. Explain the US taking Saudi $ and then donating to the Iran Shias now.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:36 pm to
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Question about the way we see veterans


This phraseology is a sure-as-shootin' signpost that vets are finna get dissed
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15343 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:47 pm to
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Explain the US taking Saudi $ and then donating to the Iran Shias


Dont need to that fits into my geo poltical model where the US isnt trying to accomplish anything noble but to gain resources and keep the middle east in a position of turmoil. I will leave that up to neocon cucks who think we are in there for nation building and fighting the good fight.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 4:50 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15343 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 4:49 pm to
True, the angst would be better directed towards politicians and those pumping up the MIC, using the pawns as Nationalism propaganda.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5718 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 5:47 pm to
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Posted by fareplay
Posted by BayouTiger311
Guatier, MS
Member since May 2015
551 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:47 pm to
We are the leaders of the free world and we attempt to defend the free world from oppression wherever they are. Especially if the people are looking to become free.

Plus I thought ISIS was beheading Americans abroad.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:15 pm to
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so eradicating ISIS is not important in your eyes


isn't in mine. That's a regional problem, they can dwi.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:33 pm to
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We really have no moral ground at all if we are putting our vets at risk for $. How is that different than any corporation using dangerous equipment, etc? We dont say our factory workers made a sacrifice etc.


Because a factory worker maybe at best generates revenue for a company. A US soldier backstops money for everyone.

Think about it. A hundred dollar bill is just a piece of paper with green ink. Yet you go almost anywhere in the world and someone will be willing to trade that paper for a good or service. That piece of paper is a shared delusion in a way, as it is only given value because the US government deems it such. It is the new gold.

Why is this US backed piece of paper desired by so much of humanity? Because it's backed by the largest economy in the world, the strongest military force in human history period, and it's tied to the energy resources that make our world literally go that all come from that region that we send troops too. Oh and because the trade it facilitates has its trade routes protected globally by our Navy, because currency is only worth something if you can use it.

So what freedom does someone serving provide? The freedom for almost every American to have an artificially high standard of living, a cushy life with social stability and personal liberty where you can post on a forum, and the ability to easy (compared to anywhere else) generate the world's first real global currency. A lot of the world have just as worthwhile people as America without anywhere near the opportunities because they aren't swimming in all these dollars that don't grow on trees in America because they are fricking trees.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:05 pm to
Hey, I've been over there and seen people die for nothing. You don't have to explain it to me.

In a further zoomed out picture, it does help keep us where we are though. Wish I could share more about it and the planned development over the next 2 decades with you. It's there.. The last organization slowed it but it hasn't stopped.

Watch troop #s in Africa.
Posted by kevind1965
Davenport, Florida
Member since Oct 2013
438 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 6:58 am to
I'm just gonna give you the short and sweet version:

Wars are fought for the following reasons: resources and the power and wealth obtained by controlling them.

Period. End of discussion.

The soldier(veteran) is but a lowly pawn in a game played by the elites. Direct your agnst towards the people that put them there...not the veteran.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:03 am to
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Wars are fought for the following reasons: resources and the power and wealth obtained by controlling them.


Keys to power, as it were.
Posted by LSU Delts
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2550 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:48 am to
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fareplay


Ask Hillary that question. It is obvious you voted for her.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:36 am to
If you received a degree from A&M, please turn in your ring and diploma. With your level of intelligence, there is no way you earned it in a legit manner.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58347 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 12:37 pm to
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Why fight at all?


Bc they have before and insist on continuing to kill as many of our citizens as possible


ETA: that's not to say we are perfect or that our motives are totally pure at the elite level but they want to destroy us so that is a small problem
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:21 pm to
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They aren't defending our soil as much as being utalized by our government for power.


Please tell me you majored in sociology. PLEASE.

What is your feeling about the US in WW2 Europe? No German bombs ever dropped on US soil, so what was the big deal with celebrating those American soldiers?

Or WW1, for that matter?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8546 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 3:34 pm to
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If you received a degree from A&M, please turn in your ring and diploma. With your level of intelligence, there is no way you earned it in a legit manner

Completely off topic from this, but you're going to be collecting a lot of rings now that we are accepting people who belong at Tech.
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