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re: Pro "Choice"? Read this, it will change your mind. Who killed Junior?

Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46507 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:58 pm to
Most of that is probably true, but on an individual level abortion still really bothers me.
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:15 pm to


That did not change my mind, idiot.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:30 pm to
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Blah blah blah blah. The birth rate is dropping in both developing and developed countries.



Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
2677 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 11:19 pm to
You make legit points, I guess the root of the problem is the disintegration of a strong parental presence in the household preferably a man and woman committed to raising responsible adults, not sure how to fix this problem but I know all the welfare and entitlements seem to make the problem worse.
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
4424 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:36 am to
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With an extra 50 million unwanted kids on the street, could you see that being a good thing whatsoever? Who is going around murdering, raping, and stealing? Is it the kid who grew up in a middle class household with a stable loving family? 99 times out of 100 no. People who go out and do those crimes are typically unwanted kids from the start, their parents are divorced/never married at all/one night stand, they're physically/sexually abused, they weren't taught by their parents to strive for an education, they come from poverty



You touched on the answer to the whole thing. Killing innocent human beings is not the answer. Most physicians worth their salt no longer dispute the fact that it's life at conception so society has gone to the "well we gotta kill these babies for population control and to keep our streets from being overrun with undesireables". The problem is that these are not stray cats and dogs we're talking about. They're human beings with a soul who have been designed in the image of God. The answer is that we have got to get ahold of ourselves as a society and do what's right instead of just what's convenient. People who rape and murder are the ones who need to be held responsible and dealt with harshly for their actions. NOT the babies and innocents their crimes procure and affect. We aren't doing enough as a society to discourage malfeasant and irresponsible behavior. We have THE LAW OF GOD on which this country was founded to show us the way, but people (like many in this very thread)refuse to be held to a higher standard and recognize the sovereignity of GOD (or even the existence of him) and because of this society will plummet further and further into chaos and death. I believe if you promote abortion, while maybe not in practice, you are yet no different in your heart than someone on death row for murder... You can try to justify it in your mind all you want, but it all boils down to killing an innocent human being.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108249 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:26 am to
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You touched on the answer to the whole thing. Killing innocent human beings is not the answer. Most physicians worth their salt no longer dispute the fact that it's life at conception so society has gone to the "well we gotta kill these babies for population control and to keep our streets from being overrun with undesireables". The problem is that these are not stray cats and dogs we're talking about. They're human beings with a soul who have been designed in the image of God. The answer is that we have got to get ahold of ourselves as a society and do what's right instead of just what's convenient. People who rape and murder are the ones who need to be held responsible and dealt with harshly for their actions. NOT the babies and innocents their crimes procure and affect. We aren't doing enough as a society to discourage malfeasant and irresponsible behavior. We have THE LAW OF GOD on which this country was founded to show us the way, but people (like many in this very thread)refuse to be held to a higher standard and recognize the sovereignity of GOD (or even the existence of him) and because of this society will plummet further and further into chaos and death. I believe if you promote abortion, while maybe not in practice, you are yet no different in your heart than someone on death row for murder... You can try to justify it in your mind all you want, but it all boils down to killing an innocent human being.



First off, I hate to burst your bubble, but America isn't and never was a theocracy.

And honestly, I think the abortion argument is bullshite. Seriously, I don't find it all that much more different in it's most basic concept as pulling out. Hey, the guy pulled out and he's denying a kid a life? These kids should have never been conceived, and tons of them grow up to be murderers, rapists, and thieves. And you know who they're going to kill, rape, and steal from: your kids, who were wanted and grew up in a loving household. If we didn't have abortion, there would be millions if not tens of millions of these types on the street right now. Seriously, go into any prison in the United States and let's take guess how many of these prisoners come from broken and abusive households that didn't have the means in one way or another to support and nurture them.

I think that my arguments are pretty conclusive that in the long term, abortion is a good thing. All you have is a delusion that you want the "Sovereignty of God" to rule this country. Ask how well that's ended for civilizations that have followed that line of reason. The Muslim world began to go to shite once this simple concept took over, when at one point, they were the most brilliant minds in the world. There's a reason why most mathematical terms originate from Aramaic words, and not Latin and Greek.

And what do you mean by "The Law of God"? I can assure that we as a country don't follow it, or else we'd stone people who used the lord's name in vain and imprison people for mowing the lawn on Sunday. And that's a good thing.
Posted by Matt1
Member since Jul 2014
12 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 4:16 pm to
Abortion is first-degree murder and should be treated as such in all circumstances. Human life should never be killed merely for convenience or because it reminds the woman of a crime committed to her. Two wrongs do not make a right in that case.

Tell me liberals, why do you all believe in legalized murder (abortion) and legalized theft (welfare)?
Posted by RTOTA
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2010
588 posts
Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:12 pm to
Nevermind...anchored
This post was edited on 7/2/14 at 7:25 pm
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