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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:13 pm
I've never understood praying for specific situations. Such as a person with an illness or a shitty situation like Ferguson.
Everybody is saying pray, pray, pray and I wonder why an omni-all-those-big-words god needs my plea to talk him into interjecting himself into a situation or healing a person.
Some say it's for me and my piece of mind and hey, that actually makes more sense but if it is just a self-help exercise, let's call it that and stop the bullshite.
You can't say god knows the past and the future and then say let's all pray for something to happen. Smh.
Everybody is saying pray, pray, pray and I wonder why an omni-all-those-big-words god needs my plea to talk him into interjecting himself into a situation or healing a person.
Some say it's for me and my piece of mind and hey, that actually makes more sense but if it is just a self-help exercise, let's call it that and stop the bullshite.
You can't say god knows the past and the future and then say let's all pray for something to happen. Smh.
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:16 pm to sorantable
12 pages.
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:20 pm to sorantable
I'm going to start praying for you
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:20 pm to deltaland
I'm sitting a prayer meeting because some important people in my church (good friends of mine) have managed to frick up their lives and potentially our church with their dumb life choices and I'm wondering why in the hell I'm here like I'm going to pray them back home or some shite.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:24 pm to sorantable
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I'm sitting a prayer meeting because some important people in my church (good friends of mine) have managed to frick up their lives and potentially our church with their dumb life choices and I'm wondering why in the hell I'm here like I'm going to pray them back home or some shite.
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:25 pm to sorantable
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I've never understood praying for specific situations.
Luke 11: 1-4
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And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,
"Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Give us day by day our daily bread.
And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil."
1 John 5:14
quote:
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us
Isaiah 55:9
quote:
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Luke 22:42
quote:
Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
So basically, you should not pray for anything in particular, just forgiveness and that God's will be done. To pray for something specific to happen is problematic for two reasons:
1. It could contradict God's divine plan in which case it will not be answered. (It is not your place to suggest alterations to/question his plan)
2. It tests your faith if what you want is not in accordance with that plan and does not happen.
That is if you believe in that kind of thing.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:27 pm to sorantable
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important people in my church (good friends of mine) have managed to frick up their lives and potentially our church with their dumb life choices
A tip: Try to personally help them. I believe that prayer is for the individual..praying for others is just for a peace of mind but if you want real results, then make an effort to help the person you're praying for and pray for guidance on how to do so. IMO that is the instance where God would be willing to help make a difference.
Instead of praying then thinking "well that's all i can do", if you care about the people then pray for God to open their eyes, and make an effort yourself to be straight with them and offer help
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:28 pm to heartbreakTiger
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Someone crying with their penis and someone listening with their vagina.. .
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:29 pm to sorantable
seen it a thousand times considering i went to a religious private school The sex scandals within the church were always interesting.
The sex scandals within the church were always interesting.Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:30 pm to deltaland
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deltaland
That's what I'm trying to do. When I was being a horned tard a couple years ago, that's all that really made a difference in my life. People being there for me.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:42 pm to sorantable
letting her vagina listen to you is probably a good idea
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:32 pm to sorantable
"You have to pray just to make it today" - MC Hammer
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:50 pm to sorantable
Praying always seemed odd to me, even when I was doing it regularly.
Either God knows best and your prayers wont affect anything (in which case they are pointless) or prayer can change outcomes in which case one wonders why God was going to carry out the alternative in the first place.
Either God knows best and your prayers wont affect anything (in which case they are pointless) or prayer can change outcomes in which case one wonders why God was going to carry out the alternative in the first place.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:00 pm to sorantable
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Some say it's for me and my piece of mind and hey, that actually makes more sense but if it is just a self-help exercise, let's call it that and stop the bullshite.
From my perspective, this makes sense. Prayer does for the religious person what meditation does for the transcendentalist and what reductionism does for the atheist.
I'm for whatever works for the individual and I definitely think prayer works for some people.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:22 pm to sorantable
The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.
James 5:!6
James 5:!6
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:38 am to sorantable
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You can't say god knows the past and the future and then say let's all pray for something to happen. Smh.
The way it was explained to me: It's more about staying "connected" with God during trying times than it is to change a situation.
Posted on 11/29/14 at 1:02 am to sorantable
Prayer's sent
Posted on 11/29/14 at 7:51 am to KSGamecock
let's say that you have a loved one on their death bed and God obviously knows that they will die in a few minutes because he knows all and that is his plan, do we pray for God to change his mind?
Posted on 11/29/14 at 8:08 am to oldcharlie8
No
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:34 am to KSGamecock
quote:Great post
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I've never understood praying for specific situations.
Luke 11: 1-4
quote:
And it came to pass, that, as he was praying in a certain place, when he ceased, one of his disciples said unto him, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
And he said unto them, When ye pray, say,
"Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
Give us day by day our daily bread.
And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil."
1 John 5:14
quote:
And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us
Isaiah 55:9
quote:
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Luke 22:42
quote:
Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
So basically, you should not pray for anything in particular, just forgiveness and that God's will be done. To pray for something specific to happen is problematic for two reasons:
1. It could contradict God's divine plan in which case it will not be answered. (It is not your place to suggest alterations to/question his plan)
2. It tests your faith if what you want is not in accordance with that plan and does not happen.
That is if you believe in that kind of thing.
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