re: Poll for Texans

That golden triangle

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TeLeFaWx

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I bet you're far too chicken shite to defend that.

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I never said anything about any other flag, or flag situation, in this thread, other than Texas. I was simply asking if all of you proud Texans would simply concede your precious Lone Star flag due to popular outcry based upon its past associations? That's the question. But, ignore and deflect all day long. Are you too chicken shite to answer the OP? I think the vitriol from the Texans herein speaks for itself.

Since you've brought up the CSA, let's look at some Texas history. Wasn't Texas a slave state? Didn't Texas join the Confederacy? Isn't that right? I seem to remember that. Do you? Why don't you defend your quote?

Here's Texas' Declaration of Causes from 2/2/1861.

Here are some choice parts for those Texans claiming indignation at the suggestion that Texas is above the fray when it comes to its past:

"Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated States to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility [sic] and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery--the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits--a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

"They have for years past encouraged and sustained lawless organizations to steal our slaves and prevent their recapture, and have repeatedly murdered Southern citizens while lawfully seeking their rendition."

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

"That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States."

He'll run away from that just like he does every other time something like this happens.

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I was simply asking if all of you proud Texans would simply concede your precious Lone Star flag due to popular outcry based upon its past associations? That's the question.

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And its a dumb question because no one associates that flag with fricking over Mexico like people associate the stars and bars with being pro-slavery. The day the Lonestar Flag turns into the modern swastika we will deal with it. But that isn't a problem now nor is it even on the radar.

Meanwhile USC is proudly displaying the modern swastika all over their state and THEY need to deal with that fact one way or the other.

The president turned this into an issue for a reason. There is no way he can actually undo the terrible state of race relations in this country but be can take the pot from boil down to simmer (thereby making it someone else's problem) by lynching some white cause for catharsis. The USC flag is the cause that was picked to be this scapegoat so either kiss it goodbye or get ready for your state to be the new Mississippi when it comes to national reputation.

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stars and bars

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You know how I know that you don't know what you're talking about?

shhhhhhhhhh

I've got a pole for ya! (I'm talkin' 'bout my penis)

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Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science.

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Funny, this is exactly what Lincoln's views were of the black slaves. Just because he was an abolitionist, does not mean that he didn't view the black person as completely inferior. He also did not consider them citizens, nor was he willing to offer the citizenship.

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We really could care less about your personel life.

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there's a lot of fail here folks, but you sir, take the cake.

The Texas flag doesn't represent racism. Majority of the ones who would be offense would just fly the flag of Mexico at their house.

Food for thought: the original name of the Houston MLS team was going to be Houston 1836. (The year of Texas independence, when Sam Houston became a hero).

But that was deemed offensive, and due to pressure from Univision, Telemundo, and civic leaders, they changed the name to the Dynamo. It worked out well, because there are a lot of Mexican American Dynamo fans.