re: Obama's Immigration Speech: Whatcha think?

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I have personally seen illegals take the jobs of hard working Americans

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I work in the construction industry, 95% of Americans (white or black) are ridiculously lazy. If an illegal came in and took the job of a "hard working" American then the American either was dumb, lazy or just sorry at his job. Why would an employer replace a guy that has been loyal to him and works hard with another guy unless he is unhappy with something?

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Do you deport the parents of children born here? They are legal citizens after all. What do we do with the millions of children then?

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Hell yea. Send them all packing. We all suffer from our parents mistakes at some point.

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I work in the construction industry, 95% of Americans (white or black) are ridiculously lazy. If an illegal came in and took the job of a "hard working" American then the American either was dumb, lazy or just sorry at his job. Why would an employer replace a guy that has been loyal to him and works hard with another guy unless he is unhappy with something?

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I also work in the construction industry, maybe all you have ever worked around are illegals that have not been here very long. The ones I know that have been here a while are not busting their arse at all. As for the reason the American workers got replaced, it was speed. Back in the late 90's early 2000's business was booming and speed became a factor for builders.Illegals would do the job for around the same price but had 2-3 times the workers on the job.It had nothing to do with Americans being lazy or stupid, it was all about illegals willing to work cheaper as individuals because they would all pile into one van and most likely lived under one roof.Making 10 times what they could at home (Mexico in this case) and 15 guys living in a single wide, it's hard to compete with those guys

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I have personally seen illegals take the jobs of hard working Americans

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Sama here, especially blue collar sectors in small businesses. They were either forced out of job or took a significant pay cut. I've seen it in first hand. They were hard working people too.

Everybody that has entered this country illegally has broken the law. They should be deported since they're criminals. Obama said criminals can't stay here.

This! If you came to America illegally get the frick out! Then re-apply legally and we will welcome you.

Anyone that supports those that are breaking America's federal laws are clueless fools.

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He should have tried to get the republicans to distance themselves from their neo-con supporters and passed this in Congress. Bribing them with the idea of being known as the Congress that regained republican support from some in the minority community might have helped do the trick.

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The problem with that is getting the republican House on borad. Many memebers are from districts that don't have large minority, hispanic, or illegals....there is no upsiide for them to support it.

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The problem with that is getting the republican House on borad. Many memebers are from districts that don't have large minority, hispanic, or illegals....there is no upsiide for them to support it.

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The downside to gerrymandering. In 25 years when hispanics are the majority in this country(I'm not kidding) their strategic dilution will backfire. If the Republican Party doesn't do everything it can to appeal to hispanics in grade school right now, they will lose power for 40 years.

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Sama here, especially blue collar sectors in small businesses. They were either forced out of job or took a significant pay cut. I've seen it in first hand. They were hard working people too.

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While unfortunate, it's the nature of our economy being the global leader in service and information. The number of jobs illegals have taken is infinitesimal to the amount of jobs technology has taken. We have a secondary labor market only suitable for cash only/under the table expenses. House keeping, farm workers, day labor. These are the overwhelming majority of jobs illegals have. While unfortunate a legal worker will have a much harder time getting in to these professions, the only way they are suitable for the cost of living of our modern society is for the people that currently have them.

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bullshite. THe delta of new jobs created since 2008 have gone to non-us born workers.

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I work in oil and gas, in South Texas, and most of this work is to US-born. Meaning I haven't seen or heard of it happening at all. I mean this might exist among mom and pop workers, but given DOT requirements, I don't think any illegal would sign up for a job requiring a CDL. I work for a Fortune 100 company, so hiring illegals is just not possible given payroll auditing, but it might happen I just can't say for sure.

Construction? House keeping? Farming? These are not the majority of new jobs created since 2008. I'd love to see some data behind what you're saying, but EVERYTHING I have seen has shown that illegal immigration has drastically regressed since 2008.

And to keep on topic (I realize I pivoted with the above post) it isn't just workers. To operate a small service business you don't have to jump through all the hoops as you do to work for a fortune 500 company. My family used to run a small carpet cleaning business, but around 2007 we basically had to close up shop because all our jobs were getting underbid by illegals working out of a minivan or single truck with no business license or requirements on workers comp, etc.