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Nazi Super Weapon - The Sun Gun
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:14 pm
Not the one Stacy Keach used in the Cheech & Chong movie.
Search for "nazi sun gun" and do some reading. They were working on a mirror one mile in diameter that was to be placed into earth orbit and utilized to reflect and focus the sun's energy onto targets on the surface of the earth. Their math supported the belief that such an apperatus could be used to raise the temperature at the center of a city (or other target, any target) to 4000 degrees fahrenheit. One moment you're asleep at 3 AM; the next metal is melting and fires are starting and you don't know about it, anyway, because you're dead.
Now we could get into how far away they were from actually being able to deploy it and blah blah blah...
What matters is that WE ARE able to construct and deploy such a weapon.
Maybe it wouldn't need to be one mile wide. If it did then maybe we could make it out of a new "space age" mirror membrane stretched over a frame. None of this is with any standing. We have had space shuttles. We have had space stations. We COULD engineer and deploy such a weapon. And so my only real question is one:
Have we put such an apperatus in space? Did the Soviet Union? Are we working on it now? Was the great mirror for the Hubble Space Telescope (look that up) in part the prototype? (Was the department of defense involved in that project to any degree, in other words?)
And if not, then why? This is a VERY viable concept for a weapon that could give a nation a ridiculously overt strategic advantage. The ability to "nuke" cities without any collateral damage (including NO residual radiation)! And the ability to "nuke" hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of targets for decades with but ONE such apperatus! Once you got it up and running you could use it almost indefinitely. All you would have to worry about then would be defending it against attack. (For THE ONLY plausible defense against it would be to destroy it. Which would be no easy task obviously. Only a handful of nations are presently equipped to consider such).
Do we have one? We damned sure SHOULD have one! If we do not have one then why not?
Search for "nazi sun gun" and do some reading. They were working on a mirror one mile in diameter that was to be placed into earth orbit and utilized to reflect and focus the sun's energy onto targets on the surface of the earth. Their math supported the belief that such an apperatus could be used to raise the temperature at the center of a city (or other target, any target) to 4000 degrees fahrenheit. One moment you're asleep at 3 AM; the next metal is melting and fires are starting and you don't know about it, anyway, because you're dead.
Now we could get into how far away they were from actually being able to deploy it and blah blah blah...
What matters is that WE ARE able to construct and deploy such a weapon.
Maybe it wouldn't need to be one mile wide. If it did then maybe we could make it out of a new "space age" mirror membrane stretched over a frame. None of this is with any standing. We have had space shuttles. We have had space stations. We COULD engineer and deploy such a weapon. And so my only real question is one:
Have we put such an apperatus in space? Did the Soviet Union? Are we working on it now? Was the great mirror for the Hubble Space Telescope (look that up) in part the prototype? (Was the department of defense involved in that project to any degree, in other words?)
And if not, then why? This is a VERY viable concept for a weapon that could give a nation a ridiculously overt strategic advantage. The ability to "nuke" cities without any collateral damage (including NO residual radiation)! And the ability to "nuke" hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of targets for decades with but ONE such apperatus! Once you got it up and running you could use it almost indefinitely. All you would have to worry about then would be defending it against attack. (For THE ONLY plausible defense against it would be to destroy it. Which would be no easy task obviously. Only a handful of nations are presently equipped to consider such).
Do we have one? We damned sure SHOULD have one! If we do not have one then why not?
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:20 pm to derSturm37
Bruh.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:46 pm to SpeedyNacho
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Bruh.
Wha?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:47 pm to derSturm37
I'm all for creative thought.. But practicality?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:51 pm to To the Dome
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I'm all for creative thought.. But practicality?
What is impractical? How much have we spent, and do we continue to spend, on creating and maintaining our stable of nuclear armed ICBM's?
Things are a bit differenct in space. You could build The Empire State Building out of construction paper and it would survive in space. Nothing is subjected to pressure and gravity like on earth. So this mirror wouldn't have to be a big solid piece of glass over a big solid piece of silver-colored whatever. It could be a membrane on a frame.
It is NOT beyond reason.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:10 am to derSturm37
Until I see a working prototype I'm holding fast
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:13 am to To the Dome
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Until I see a working prototype I'm holding fast.
Agnostic, huh? I appreciate that.
Have you ever heard of The Panama Canal? Or perhaps you'd need to actually see it? Or maybe ride a boat through it?
Either way I'm thinking that this project would be less hastle.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 4:03 am to derSturm37
nazi stealing ideas from james bond i see lol
Posted on 8/16/15 at 6:28 am to vengeanceofrain
Mylar or something similar? You would probably run into the same problems laser weapons do in the lower atmosphere.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 6:31 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:21 am to derSturm37
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What is impractical
Well let's start off with building a one mile diameter object in space, now what about keeping it in orbit, maintaining orbit, being able to manuevor in orbit, dodging space debris, oh and being able to hide this from every other country capable of launching a rocket into space to destroy it.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 8:02 am to derSturm37
This was never a doable weapon. A one mile diameter object in space would be impossible to maintain.
If a country deployed such a weapon, any other space capable country could render it useless with little effort.
If a country deployed such a weapon, any other space capable country could render it useless with little effort.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 8:17 am to derSturm37
We have spy satellites that take out other spy satellites as it is now. And missiles from the ground could easily target as well if we didn't care to be covert
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:26 pm to NYCAuburn
I'm not sure it has to be one mile in diameter. I'm no optician. In 1937 such was the belief. I'm wondering if advancements have not been made since then. We've definitely done a lot of work with parabolic designs, to begin with.
Maintenance and control in orbit should be no big deal. I'm at a loss. ???
No one is going to attack it (launch a rocket to break it, or whatever) until it has been used against them. I haven't postulated that we should build this thing and then scrap our Navy, Air Force, et al! Anyone who attacks the thing is then at war with The United States. Pretty big deterrent to throwing a rock at the thing!!!
If we ever started using the thing then Yeah someone would be throwing at rocks at it. Good luck with that. Ten cities will be toast before your little missile leaves the atmosphere. And then our own orbiting defense systems come into play. They're there to shoot down your little missiles. Hell, the main weapon itself might have smaller mirrors on board in order to incinerate your rockets before they reach it.
This thing is plausible. And it would be BAD. Like Death Star BAD. We need to get on this.
Maintenance and control in orbit should be no big deal. I'm at a loss. ???
No one is going to attack it (launch a rocket to break it, or whatever) until it has been used against them. I haven't postulated that we should build this thing and then scrap our Navy, Air Force, et al! Anyone who attacks the thing is then at war with The United States. Pretty big deterrent to throwing a rock at the thing!!!
If we ever started using the thing then Yeah someone would be throwing at rocks at it. Good luck with that. Ten cities will be toast before your little missile leaves the atmosphere. And then our own orbiting defense systems come into play. They're there to shoot down your little missiles. Hell, the main weapon itself might have smaller mirrors on board in order to incinerate your rockets before they reach it.
This thing is plausible. And it would be BAD. Like Death Star BAD. We need to get on this.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:31 pm to derSturm37
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I'm wondering if advancements have not been made since then.
I am not sure there are too many advances in reflective focusing tech except better polishing. Now a solar powered laser on the other hand is a bit different but still easily destroyed.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:26 pm to derSturm37
This particular device has been theorized since the time of Aristotle.
It's still just as impracticable now as it was then.
It's still just as impracticable now as it was then.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:10 pm to derSturm37
Awe-inspiring concept.
Just too impractical in application, however.
Just too impractical in application, however.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:29 pm to derSturm37
We already have nukes, why frick around with all this shite?
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:39 pm to Volatile
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This particular device has been theorized since the time of Aristotle.
It's still just as impracticable now as it was then.
You are correct. The ancient Greeks sat around dreaming up some devious shite.
What about something like this? Instead of one big mirror an array of smaller ones. They could be arranged in tens, twenties, hundreds if necessary, to work together to focus the energy to a single point on the earth's surface. Each satellite would itself be somewhat dispensible and less expensively replaced. (Also harder to hit. Each would be equipped with the ability to perform evasive maneuvers when necessary. Hell each could have a simple rifle onboard to shoot at approaching threats. That part's NO biggie).
It's imporatant to note that 1) I'm no drafter, 2) I spent about 4 minutes in Windows Paint making this pic, and 3) The mirrors would almost certainly be larger than depicted in proportion to their host satellites.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:40 pm to deeprig9
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We already have nukes, why frick around with all this shite?
Nukes would be PERFECT if it weren't for the residual radiation thing. It makes them rather messy unfortunately.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 10:03 pm to DarthRebel
quote:bullshite, the North Koreans did it but thankfully James Bond was able to stop them.
This was never a doable weapon. A one mile diameter object in space would be impossible to maintain.
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