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re: NASA finds habitable planet – Kepler-186f – but don’t pack just yet
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:32 pm to Dawggy_Style
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:32 pm to Dawggy_Style
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Several years ago, I read an article that predicted that the illiteracy of the future wouldn't be those who literally could not read. Instead, those who are unable to quickly and instinctually grasp new technology and adapt to changing environments would be considered to be "illiterate".
I've been avoiding buying a new phone since forever. I'm still working with and iPhone3, and I think I have pride that I make it work. I'm seriously starting to think I should adopt new tech as soon as possible regardless of the cost to keep myself young.
I'm 31, I've never had a phone this long. It feels weird and like I'm way behind because my old 60 pops shows up with the new ios and I don't know why his looks different.
Buy the new tech, stay young. It's good marketing, and probably good practice for those of us oldies.
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:39 pm to Kentucker
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When do you think we'll be able to travel between the stars? The galaxies?
Never. There will never be a means of making our mass move close enough to the speed of light to get our bodies across spans of light years.
That's why it's called the speed of light, not the speed of matter.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 10:55 pm to PrivatePublic
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Never. There will never be a means of making our mass move close enough to the speed of light to get our bodies across spans of light years.
That's why it's called the speed of light, not the speed of matter.
That's why we need to build a ship that can create a black hole gateway that folds space and time and make the jump to Kepler 186f.
Event Horizon
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:07 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Event Horizon
Isn't that the plot to Doom as well?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:14 pm to PrivatePublic
shite, I don't know. I never played Doom.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:16 am to Kentucker
Seriously, Space is a harsh environment with gamma rays blasting through out and no ozone layer protecting the fragile human form.
Face it we aren't built for the intergalactic race track and the best bet we have is staying put and working within the confines of what is obtainable metaphysically.
I doubt the human mind could even retain memories past 150 years because it wasn't built for that.
Besides what would we say to the talking rocks on Kepler 186f anyhow?
Face it we aren't built for the intergalactic race track and the best bet we have is staying put and working within the confines of what is obtainable metaphysically.
I doubt the human mind could even retain memories past 150 years because it wasn't built for that.
Besides what would we say to the talking rocks on Kepler 186f anyhow?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:16 am to Mizzeaux
Portable wormholes
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:06 am to Kentucker
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When do you think we'll be able to travel between the stars? The galaxies?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:13 am to silverdawg
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Face it we aren't built for the intergalactic race track and the best bet we have is staying put and working within the confines of what is obtainable metaphysically.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:35 am to Kentucker
I read something about this yesterday. I thought the deal was that the planet was within a certain distance to its star where the temps and radiation levels make life possibly viable and that liquid water could exist there, though neither is proven.
That doesnt mean its habitable. Only that it has possible traits that could make it so.
That doesnt mean its habitable. Only that it has possible traits that could make it so.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:55 am to Kentucker
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It would be best if we could have the time to evolve into A.I. or cyborgs before mixing with the universe but we'll go as soon as we can.
What's certain is by the time we are able to mix, travel long distances and the like is: We will definitely had mixed with machines, or exist with significant biological advancements and augmentations to prolong our life and give us different strength.
So like I said, tens of thousands of years.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:02 am to Pavoloco83
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That doesnt mean its habitable. Only that it has possible traits that could make it so.
True. So far, it's been determined to fit just two of the criteria for life: Its distance from the star and its size.
When the James Webb Space Telescope is launched in 2018, Kepler 186f's atmosphere will be studied to determine if it has one and what its components are. If oxygen is observed, for example, that would be a tell-tale sign of life.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:06 am to Kentucker
Has anyone called dibs? Cuz if not...dibs
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:11 am to Kentucker
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When the James Webb Space Telescope is launched in 2018, Kepler 186f's atmosphere will be studied to determine if it has one and what its components are. If oxygen is observed, for example, that would be a tell-tale sign of life.
Am I reading the articles statement wrong?
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Astronomers may never know for certain whether Kepler-186f can sustain life. The planet is too far away even for next-generation space telescopes like NASA’s overbudget James Webb, set for launch in 2018, to study in detail
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:15 am to Mizzeaux
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Buy the new tech, stay young. It's good marketing, and probably good practice for those of us oldies.
Don't feel too bad about not being able to keep up with technological advancements. Not many can grasp the minutiae of most inventions now.
Humanity has entered a phase of evolution wherein we are essentially a hive. We have our individual contributions but it's a hive mentality that is steering our progress.
This is especially true regarding technology. We can keep up with what the new technology does but how it does it is beyond the comprehension of the vast majority of us.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:22 am to PrivatePublic
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Never. There will never be a means of making our mass move close enough to the speed of light to get our bodies across spans of light years. That's why it's called the speed of light, not the speed of matter.
Don't give up yet. The speed of light is a limit we see in physics as described by Einstein's Theory of General Relativity. Quantum Physics is a whole new ball game. Some aspects of it don't seem to observe distance restrictions, for example.
Stay positive.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:27 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What's certain is by the time we are able to mix, travel long distances and the like is: We will definitely had mixed with machines, or exist with significant biological advancements and augmentations to prolong our life and give us different strength.
Europeans weren't ready to mix with the first residents of the New World but that didn't slow them down. Given an ability to travel and colonize, humans will do it.
If, for example, we discover a way to travel via the quantum level, we will. That ability may prove to be real in the near future. Near being, at most, a few hundred years.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 9:46 am to Alahunter
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Astronomers may never know for certain whether Kepler-186f can sustain life. The planet is too far away even for next-generation space telescopes like NASA’s overbudget James Webb, set for launch in 2018, to study in detail
I don't know why the authors made this statement. Science writers are usually knowledgeable about the field(s) they write about.
The James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) will be 6 times larger than the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) that it's replacing. Light gathered by the HST is already being used to determine the components of some exoplanet atmospheres, though not very effectively due to the HST's size limitation.
The JWST will be able to gather much more light from Kepler-186f's star and planets. Since 186f is only 490 light years away, we should be able to see it much better with the JWST.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:03 am to Kentucker
So any pictures we get from this planet would be from the year 1524.... this might not reflect much on them but, it sure as hell would if they were looking back at us....
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:06 am to Kentucker
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Europeans weren't ready to mix with the first residents of the New World but that didn't slow them down. Given an ability to travel and colonize, humans will do it.
If, for example, we discover a way to travel via the quantum level, we will. That ability may prove to be real in the near future. Near being, at most, a few hundred years.
I know where the optimism comes from but keep in mind: We haven't even been able to land a person on Mars, let alone travel 3 trillion miles away. Mars is a 9 month trip and you have to think how far away we are with sustaining life -- let alone sustaining life at quantum levels.
We will need to adapt our bodies, ships and materials for that and we're no where -near- close. China could barely keep contact with its rover on the Moon and the United States is still the only country to land a rover anywhere else that's successful.
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