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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:44 am
nevermind
ditching this: if it's true about the Ming dynasty activities in this realm, or if it's just British historians saying it to make themselves feel better about the Opium Wars, ditching this
ditching this: if it's true about the Ming dynasty activities in this realm, or if it's just British historians saying it to make themselves feel better about the Opium Wars, ditching this
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:44 am to Harry Rex Vonner
harems and concubines
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:50 am to Harry Rex Vonner
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harems and concubines
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:03 am to LittleJerrySeinfield
I just went ahead and upvoted this whole damn thread.
It was the right thing to do.
It was the right thing to do.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:45 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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the Opium Wars
Have no idea what the OP was about, but I listened to a podcast on this within the past year or so, and that's sort of an insane footnote of history, that the British (militarily) forced the Chinese to legalize, import, and essentially deal their drugs, keeping that populace addicted.
There is certainly no love lost on my part regarding China, and of course there's always more to the story, but at least on the surface that's pretty messed up.
(Might need Arksulli to set me straight if I'm getting something wrong.)
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:00 pm to paperwasp
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Opium Wars
British in China
Black Hole of Calcutta = British in India
Zulu Wars = British in Africa
Little Black Sambo is not PC anymore because African - Americans seem to assume Sambo is from Africa (he is actually dot Indian, not Feather).
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:15 pm to Cheese Grits
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Zulu Wars = British in Africa
Not sure if that's the same timeframe because I really don't know history all that well, but was that when Baden-Powell got the impetus for the Boy Scouts?
Seem to recall it had something to do with the Zulu and the Boer War, and he was obviously a British Army officer.
I might be confusing multiple things lol.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:58 pm to Cheese Grits
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Opium Wars
quote:
British in China
Black Hole of Calcutta = British in India
Zulu Wars = British in Africa
The “Snell’s” - Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri
Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:28 pm to SupperClubDrunkBus
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The “Snell’s”
Posted on 4/5/24 at 11:44 am to paperwasp
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Zulu and the Boer War
Zulu war was with Zulu's
Boer war was with the Dutch
History seems to be coming full circle on the Zulu war
Back story if my memory is working ...
DeBeer's controlled the world diamond market and used armies around the world to protect it. They were a privately held company with no standing army. They were not even based in Britain or the UK. When Africa was wanting self rule - basically countries based on resources controlled by a dictator and individual countries were asserting power.
Zulu's were basically using the same spears and shields made out of animal skin (way outdated weapons of war) to fight the British Army who had guns and artillery. I think there were 3 Zulu War's and the first was utter defeat for the British as tribal Zulu's over ran and killed the British. Eventually the British won but it took time and resources with no financial support from DeBeer's.
The utter defeat damaged the reputation of the British Army going forward, along with financial ruin. To add insult to injury, DeBeer's did not move to HQ in the UK. Lesson should have been learned then about not using a government to protect a corporation.
Posted on 4/6/24 at 2:08 am to paperwasp
Harems and concubines was the OP
But then clicking on a few historical accounts of them, the Ming treatment of them was straight out Satanic
Eta: so as far as the opium wars point I made, I wonder if if was British historians making shite up to make china look bad because of the satanic shite britain did to china centuries later
But then clicking on a few historical accounts of them, the Ming treatment of them was straight out Satanic
Eta: so as far as the opium wars point I made, I wonder if if was British historians making shite up to make china look bad because of the satanic shite britain did to china centuries later
This post was edited on 4/6/24 at 2:16 am
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