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re: Map of enlistment rates by state: Why is Louisiana so unpatriotic?

Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:33 pm to
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Well, it's true. I don't know a single person that was in when I was that joined out of a sense of patriotism. Hell, two of them are straight up pacifist hippies who despise the military now. Most joined for the college money or to get out of small towns. A few joined because they would be in jail otherwise.
I know quite a few that are in the military. Only one person is in it because of patriotism.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 4:39 pm to
I expected Georgia to be up there but I'm scratching my head over Florida?
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 5:05 pm to
No daquari stores on military bases. Also we can think for our selves
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 5:06 pm
Posted by tigerrage
North Carolina
Member since May 2011
465 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:16 pm to
When I was in there were a lot of enlisted from Ohio, Texas, Florida and California. Didn't run into too many enlisted from Louisiana. Many of my closest buddies were from Alabama. They never talked trash to me or got any roll tide because we owned them during those years.
Posted by Silverback
Gumpin' ain't easy
Member since Aug 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:46 pm to
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It's often a last resort.


You watch to much TV.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:12 pm to
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Btw, sorry about winning independence for Texas.


The only battle y'all fought in was basically the only one we lost...
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:16 pm to
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The only battle y'all fought in was basically the only one we lost...




San Jacinto, dumbass. Where do you think Sam Houston got his army from?
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:44 am to
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I for real hate you CF. It's like you open up threads and say "hmmm what's this all about? What's the OP trying to do? Ah just let me frick it all up".



Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67078 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 8:56 am to
Most teenagers, these days, join the military in order to pay for school. Louisiana has two things that make that less necessary:
1. TOPS
2. blue collar jobs

Louisiana's TOPS program makes an education at a state school affordable for most prospective students with any amount of drive or intelligence.

Louisiana offers a ton of opportunities for blue collar work relative to other states. Oil field trash, operators, dock workers, ship builders, fishermen, safety specialists, equipment operators, electricians, carpenters, ironworkers, welders, machinists, boilermakers, plumbers, pipefitters, masons, AC Techs, ect
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:02 am to
Louisiana has O&G. Good paying jobs for the uneducated. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:05 am to
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I expected Georgia to be up there but I'm scratching my head over Florida?


There are two bases in Jacksonville, one in Pensacola, one near Cocoa Beach, probably more I can't remember.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:20 am to
Statistically speaking, the poorer the state, the more military members that state will produce. Same goes with education. Lower education=More military involvement.

I was surprised by the Dakota's until I remembered that quite a few large corporations are moving their home offices there due to tax breaks.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 9:25 am to
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I was surprised by the Dakota's until I remembered that quite a few large corporations are moving their home offices there due to tax breaks.




Imagine that, the people benefit when businesses avoid taxation.

Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37613 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 4:40 pm to
Two of my best friends who I served with were both from Louisiana.

Neither of them returned there though, after they retired. One is still in North Carolina and the other is in Atlanta.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:09 pm to
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Statistically speaking, the poorer the state, the more military members that state will produce. Same goes with education. Lower education=More military involvement.

I was surprised by the Dakota's until I remembered that quite a few large corporations are moving their home offices there due to tax breaks.


Link? The OP directly contradicts your statement.

Also, the military is wonderful for social mobility upward for a lot of kids. I'm often amused at the logic gymnastics some people will go to explain both how the military is 'preying' on poor kids, but also is an enormous opportunity for them.

One of the reasons the military has so many people from low income backgrounds is that many from the north east or upper class families think they are too good or valuable to serve the country. I knew several enlisted guys from NICE parts of San fransisco and New York, who literally joined because it was what their families expected of them. They didn't need the money, they both either partially or were the sole owner of a small business.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36018 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:00 pm to
The military is a great way for poor and working class kids to escape poverty, but it's these kids who are the true casualties of war. Our world policing and exercise in nation building make a small number of people a ton of money, and you can bet it isn't the parents of our dead or wounded.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36529 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:41 pm to
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Why is Louisiana so unpatriotic?}


Because you touch yourself at night.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36529 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:44 pm to
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Louisiana has O&G. Good paying jobs for the uneducated. I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.


Why would you join the military when you can make 6 figures working offshore, or in a refinery.
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