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re: Man kills wife, 22 weeks pregnant, cleaning a loaded firearm

Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:27 am to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:27 am to
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Neither handguns *or cars (Barring malfunctions) cause harm. The people who operate them do.


Dumbest fricking argument ever postulated.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:34 am to
Not really. They're tools, they don't have the ability to inflict harm.

Their owners do.
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Dumbest fricking argument ever postulated.


What is your counter-argument?
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:02 pm to
I had a 50/50 shot
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:10 pm to
and you failed
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:11 pm to
I'm like the tide, I only show up when something is on the line.
Posted by Patton
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32652 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:21 pm to
fricking Saban...
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

No, I cannot handle someone that sees fit to compare 2nd Amendment rights to slavery.


My point was that the laws are fluid. You shouldn't base an ethical argument on laws because they are artificial and change with time.

quote:

I'm carrying a gun right now. DWI.


I'm from Alabama. Many people do. IDWI.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

You shouldn't base an ethical argument


Ethical? There are crazy people out there. I've got a messed up knee, I can't run. I should be able to defend my life.

6 people in China just killed 29 people and injured another 140 with knives. We're really good at killing each other, and if you take away guns, we'll just find a more barbaric way.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
3944 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Ethical? There are crazy people out there. I've got a messed up knee, I can't run. I should be able to defend my life.


Wow. Who sounds like a pussy now?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30048 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:41 pm to
Not to go all poli-board on this thread, but if anti-gunners really cared about child safety every swimming pool in the country would be filled in. I've been a cop 19 years. Only have worked one accidental shooting of a kid (and that was by another kid). I bet I've had 10 or more drownings of infants and small children.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:41 pm to
Still you
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Not to go all poli-board on this thread, but if anti-gunners really cared about child safety every swimming pool in the country would be filled in. I've been a cop 19 years. Only have worked one accidental shooting of a kid (and that was by another kid). I bet I've had 10 or more drownings of infants and small children.


GET THIS LOGIC OUTTA HERE
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:44 pm to
you people make me sick
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:45 pm to
I know. What was I thinking?
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

We're really good at killing each other, and if you take away guns, we'll just find a more barbaric way.


People have been killing people since all they had were rocks to throw at each other. Evil doers will do evil, however they can.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Wow. Who sounds like a pussy now?


You understand what a twice-torn ACL, torn meniscus, and no cartilage does to the inside of your knee?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69899 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Dumbest fricking argument ever postulated.



Are you suggesting that cars and guns, if not operated by people, would cause harm?
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
Guns don't do harm, people do
Cars don't do harm, people do
Nuclear bombs don't do harm, people do
heroin dosn't do harm, people do
and you can keep going.

Although your right guns don't do harm, people do is not an argument for anything it's just a statement. And if you're just making a statement then fine. But if you're implying an argument against gun regulations/controls then the exact same argument the same argument can be used against laws to control nuclear weapons, dirty bombs, heroin, and on and on.

So it's not so much a dumb argument as a useless statement that is a waste of time
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 3:21 pm to
Heroin and nuclear weapons are a particularly horrible comparison to draw.
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