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Looks like Uber could be coming to Birmingham....

Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:45 am
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"We're in Birmingham today because we want to be in Birmingham," Theunissen said. "It's the largest city, the largest market on the East Coast that Uber is currently not operating in."


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Mayor William Bell said he supports bringing Uber to the city, and the ordinance will be expedited.


The City Council, including Jonathan Austin, are a bunch of clowns. However it looks like they couldn't ignore the demand any longer. Kim Rafferty, the transportation chair, is strangely absent from the article. It sounds like the rest of the council took it out of her hands.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15961 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 9:53 am to
Good for Y'all, their not allowed in STL.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:02 am to
How does Uber work if it's approved in Birmingham, but you need a pick up in Homewood or Hoover or somewhere? Would it only be pick ups in Birmingham proper?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:09 am to
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How does Uber work if it's approved in Birmingham, but you need a pick up in Homewood or Hoover or somewhere? Would it only be pick ups in Birmingham proper?


They won't be able to legally do a pick up unless they get a business license for the particular municipality involved.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:18 am to
I didn't realize it was still banned in some places. Had it in Fayetteville for a year or so now.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:18 am to
I imagine the other municipalities will jump right on board. You don't want to be the odd man out and suffer the wrath of social media.

Certainly an example of how Bham Metro has way too many municipalities.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:21 am to
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They won't be able to legally do a pick up unless they get a business license for the particular municipality involved.



But I thought business license requirements were a sticking point for Uber a year or so ago when it first was being discussed. Maybe the city requires a license for each vehicle instead of the parent company? I don't know.

Just seems it would defeat the purpose if it were only limited to Birmingham proper. I've never used Uber so not sure how it works in big cities with suburbs.
Posted by Kamikaze25
Columbia
Member since Jul 2015
1199 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 10:58 am to
Uber is fantastic. They have been in Columbia for a while now. Haven't used a taxi since. Overall, it's cheaper and you don't have to deal with the weird arse taxi drivers.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:01 am to
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and you don't have to deal with the weird arse taxi drivers.

...until they start driving for Uber.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:12 am to
I think there's only one business license necessary, which could be the hangup. Less money for the city.
Posted by Kamikaze25
Columbia
Member since Jul 2015
1199 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:46 am to
Thing is, you have to have a newer vehicle to provide an Uber transport. That would immediately eliminate the low-lifes. (not saying every taxi driver or someone without a newer vehicle is a low-life)
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 11:59 am to
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But I thought business license requirements were a sticking point for Uber a year or so ago when it first was being discussed. Maybe the city requires a license for each vehicle instead of the parent company? I don't know.

Just seems it would defeat the purpose if it were only limited to Birmingham proper. I've never used Uber so not sure how it works in big cities with suburbs.


I don't know how other states work, but they and everyone else need a business license for every municipality where they operate in Alabama. Contractors, lawn care companies, delivery companies, etc all have the same requirement. They (like all those other businesses) will also be responsible for remitting the appropriate taxes to that jurisdiction.

It used to be a lot harder. In the past, some places were calendar year, others were fiscal year, and still others were a year from the date of purchase. Also, what might be a taxi service in one city could be called something else a mile down the road. About 10 years ago, the state adopted a pretty uniform license law where the rates are controlled by the local jurisdiction but the date ranges and business definitions are now uniform.

When it comes to policing the license requirement, it's easy for the PD or code enforcement officer to check the business license of the guy with the lawn care truck. Not so much the guy in the Sonata who just dropped somebody off at a house. While there are no guarantees, I think it is reasonable to assume if Birmingham lets them in the smaller cities will probably follow. The drivers will almost certainly operate in those areas anyhow. The municipalities know it and they'll want to get the revenue.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 12:40 pm to
I know how the business license process works, I was just wondering what the sticking point in regards to the business license was about a year. It's also mentioned in the article. I'm guessing the way Birmingham code is written now, each driver would have to have his/her own business license, and Uber wants just one license for the parent organization.


Now that I typed that out, that's exactly what happened in Tuscaloosa. They busted a few of the drivers without a business license and it got shut down after only a few weeks in operation. Didn't help that one of the drivers had drug paraphenalia on him.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24110 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 12:48 pm to
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Certainly an example of how Bham Metro has way too many municipalities


It can't be that bad. It west, it's absurd how many municipalities exist. In Denver area, there are multiple cities with less than 100 people, and are only like 12 square blocks total, yet have 10+ cops. And they're not their to serve and protect, but to bust balls and extort money.

Uber is pretty cool, although around here, a lot of people prefer Lyft. I've used them both, though the only time I tried Lyft, it was at 1.75x pricing, so it was more expensive than the regular Uber, similar as the XL.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 12:49 pm to
Regardless of the license stuff, I think Uber is really going to send downtown into overdrive. Will free up a lot of parking and will really help people on the weekends. The businesses down there should be salivating over it. Of course the minimum wage hike last week will probably negate it though
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 12:59 pm to
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I'm guessing the way Birmingham code is written now, each driver would have to have his/her own business license, and Uber wants just one license for the parent organization.


I'd be VERY surprised if they're going that route. To make that sale, they're basically saying the drivers are employees instead of independent contractors. Right now they're in the middle of a very heavily contested court case in federal court (California) where drivers are suing saying they're employees. Uber's already lost at the district court level.

It won't play well in court if they're arguing that drivers are employees when talking business licenses but contractors when talking labor law.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:05 pm to
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It can't be that bad



It's not so much that there are a lot of them, it's that there's little cooperation between them all.

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In Denver area, there are multiple cities with less than 100 people, and are only like 12 square blocks total, yet have 10+ cops


Depending how far out from the city center you want to go, Birmingham has a few cities like that. None in the immediate area of Birmingham proper though. Most are a good 15-30 minutes from the city, at least.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24110 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:16 pm to
Ours are literally connected to Denver.

One, called Lakeside, that has only 8 residents and a cheap amusement park, allowed a Walmart, even though the entire surrounding population was against it. But they were one the wrong side of the street, so there was nothing they could do. It sucks when these municipal jokes can affect the entire surrounding area.

Though luckily, some small municipalities were greedy enough to open a ton of dispensaries in the neighborhood, which I haven't heard any complaints about. Plus, they're open till midnight, instead of just 7 like most places. So they're not all bad.
This post was edited on 8/27/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20758 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:26 pm to
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It can't be that bad. It west, it's absurd how many municipalities exist. In Denver area, there are multiple cities with less than 100 people, and are only like 12 square blocks total, yet have 10+ cops. And they're not their to serve and protect, but to bust balls and extort money.


Its bad. I think Bham Metro has more municipalities than any other city in the country relative to it's size.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:32 pm to
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One, called Lakeside, that has only 8 residents and a cheap amusement park, allowed a Walmart, even though the entire surrounding population was against it. But they were one the wrong side of the street, so there was nothing they could do. It sucks when these municipal jokes can affect the entire surrounding area.


Interesting. In Alabama, you can't incorporate unless you've got a minimum of 300 residents. You don't lose that status if the population goes below that number as long as you continue to hold elections and maintain the functions of government so there are a handful with smaller populations, but those are all towns that were much larger but then died off so nobody's building a house much less a Wal-Mart in them.
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