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Let's talk about the future of humanity and AI's
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:05 pm
I think it's safe to say that many the beings that inhabit this earth a mere 500 years from now or less will not be 100% human. Artificial intelligence technology is growing rapidly and someday we will wonder how and where they first entered society and why we didn't see the signs.
I'm not saying that to insinuate that AI's are going to be the end of humanity in a terminator-esque way. I think that humans will see that the only way to move past the physical, aging and constantly deteriorating human form is to engineer it with biotechnology applications. From nanobots that are able to perform procedures before the symptoms of a potential life ending complication set in to healing from a torn ligament in days, not months or years..I think you will start to see the early signs of the AI set in as humans try to engineer themselves to move beyond the simple, droll evolutionary constraints set upon us by nature.
That is where the actual first full fledged AI's could come in. They would be able to inhabit worlds much harsher than our own..would be able to travel unimaginable distances to create new colonies. I know it all sounds scary and there is a good reason to be concerned. But lets face it..The only way humans are going to be able to live forever one day is to engineer themselves and others--be that ethical or not. And I think it's not a matter of IF but when.
I think it's an interesting proposition to think about the future of humanity in the sense that even we humans will become technological beings. I assume that is also the only way to one day be able to communicate with an ancient civilization--if we are ever able to at all.
I'm not saying that to insinuate that AI's are going to be the end of humanity in a terminator-esque way. I think that humans will see that the only way to move past the physical, aging and constantly deteriorating human form is to engineer it with biotechnology applications. From nanobots that are able to perform procedures before the symptoms of a potential life ending complication set in to healing from a torn ligament in days, not months or years..I think you will start to see the early signs of the AI set in as humans try to engineer themselves to move beyond the simple, droll evolutionary constraints set upon us by nature.
That is where the actual first full fledged AI's could come in. They would be able to inhabit worlds much harsher than our own..would be able to travel unimaginable distances to create new colonies. I know it all sounds scary and there is a good reason to be concerned. But lets face it..The only way humans are going to be able to live forever one day is to engineer themselves and others--be that ethical or not. And I think it's not a matter of IF but when.
I think it's an interesting proposition to think about the future of humanity in the sense that even we humans will become technological beings. I assume that is also the only way to one day be able to communicate with an ancient civilization--if we are ever able to at all.
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:06 pm to Mullet Flap
Kill it with fire
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:08 pm to Mullet Flap
As long as I can artificially elongate my deal idgaf what else is going on
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:10 pm to DirtyDawg
What about girth? Asking for a friend
Posted on 7/8/15 at 10:10 pm to DocHoliday11
Girth would be nice.
So that too
So that too
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:23 pm to Mullet Flap
Interesting topic. It won't be long until we can upload our consciousness into a mech warrior type machine. That will lead to inserting our consciousness into the Internet, where our minds will be able to live forever.
It's a very exciting time.
It's a very exciting time.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:41 pm to Mullet Flap
If you're a student of human evolution, you'll easily see that AI is the logical next step in the transmission of sentience into the Universe. Humans, in our current form, cannot go into space or to other environments because we are biological creatures that must adapt to new environments.
AI doesn't have that constraint. It will be able to evolve on the fly as it approaches new circumstances. There's also the absence of that annoying human characteristic, death. What a waste is it to educate a brilliant human only to have it die after a very few productive decades.
AI will be able to constantly update a central information repository. "The Borg" collective, which is a fictitious cyborg species, is also a possible scenario for future intelligence resulting from human evolution. However, I personally think, and hope,that we can avoid any necessity of continuing as a biological species. Messy, messy, messy.
AI doesn't have that constraint. It will be able to evolve on the fly as it approaches new circumstances. There's also the absence of that annoying human characteristic, death. What a waste is it to educate a brilliant human only to have it die after a very few productive decades.
AI will be able to constantly update a central information repository. "The Borg" collective, which is a fictitious cyborg species, is also a possible scenario for future intelligence resulting from human evolution. However, I personally think, and hope,that we can avoid any necessity of continuing as a biological species. Messy, messy, messy.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:43 pm to DocHoliday11
Silicone.... look it up
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:48 pm to Stonehog
Consciousness is a process of the brain, not a program or a tangible thing that can be separated from it. Short of physically removing the brain from its host and transplanting it into some other vessel, there is simply no way to transfer consciousness.
A lot of research also indicates that consciousness is the result of not only the brain but its associations and interactions with other parts of each body. In short, consciousness is as unique as is each body and cannot exist separate from its generator.
A lot of research also indicates that consciousness is the result of not only the brain but its associations and interactions with other parts of each body. In short, consciousness is as unique as is each body and cannot exist separate from its generator.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 12:10 am to Kentucker
Some people watch too many movies.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 10:32 am to AUX3
The perception that consciousness is something that can exist separate from the brain is so ubiquitous that it actually hampers brain research. The impulse to treat behavior problems with therapy, for example, is so prevalent that looking for a physical cause is frequently ignored.
Thank goodness there's a movement afoot to look for physical anomalies in the brain first. This should definitely have an effect on the number of mentally ill people who might take a gun into a school, church or place of business with the intent of expressing their sickness.
Thank goodness there's a movement afoot to look for physical anomalies in the brain first. This should definitely have an effect on the number of mentally ill people who might take a gun into a school, church or place of business with the intent of expressing their sickness.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:31 am to Kentucker
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If you're a student of human evolution, you'll easily see that AI is the logical next step in the transmission of sentience into the Universe.
''Humans are the reproductive organs of machines.''
It's our future, we're going to build a God at some point -- and we ought to be asking the question: Will it be a good God?
Or is it even capable of being good?
All I know is that these movies where aliens come to invade and kill us -- we will actually be the invaders and planet destroyers if our mentality doesn't change soon.
We're a scary breed.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 12:24 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Yes, it may be that we are the first sentient species. I'm positive that life exists in many places in the Universe but sentience could be so rare that it has happened only once.
Since, based on what we presently know, the Universe will last for trillions of years we have plenty of time to develop AI to the point that it can spread across the Cosmos. Also, research and theory suggest that our Universe is only one of an incalculable number making up the Multiverse.
It would be the ultimate anthropomorphic statement to suggest that humans represent the origins of conscious intelligence. However, until evidence points in another direction it's an idea that stands with any other reasonable theory.
Since, based on what we presently know, the Universe will last for trillions of years we have plenty of time to develop AI to the point that it can spread across the Cosmos. Also, research and theory suggest that our Universe is only one of an incalculable number making up the Multiverse.
It would be the ultimate anthropomorphic statement to suggest that humans represent the origins of conscious intelligence. However, until evidence points in another direction it's an idea that stands with any other reasonable theory.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 12:42 pm to Kentucker
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Also, research and theory suggest that our Universe is only one of an incalculable number making up the Multiverse.
Would you be willing to giving a little more background on the multiverse hypothesis? I have the quantum mechanics understanding of a C student in PChem 1.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:19 pm to Kentucker
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Yes, it may be that we are the first sentient species. I'm positive that life exists in many places in the Universe but sentience could be so rare that it has happened only once.
Since, based on what we presently know, the Universe will last for trillions of years we have plenty of time to develop AI to the point that it can spread across the Cosmos. Also, research and theory suggest that our Universe is only one of an incalculable number making up the Multiverse.
It would be the ultimate anthropomorphic statement to suggest that humans represent the origins of conscious intelligence. However, until evidence points in another direction it's an idea that stands with any other reasonable theory.
I think what may also be terrifying is when we start to try and transfer sentience to other beings. I have no doubt that one day, people will want their cat or dog to respond to them in a different way.
Imagine a universe with only self-sufficient, self-maintaining machines after all organic life has perished.
I wonder what'll happen when our sentient mechanical arm reaches the edge of the universe (should there be one) and tries to cross into other universes like a virus?
If we don't kill each other first.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:14 pm to Duke
It's called M Theory where the M represents many, multiple, membrane, or any number of words that begin with that letter. It's a mystery how the theory began or who began it. No one is taking credit for it even though it has taken off as a logical precedent to the Big Bang.
As most of us know, the Big Bang is theorized to be the point of origin of our Universe. M Theory says that membranes, since shortened to just "branes," compose the Multiverse. When two of them bumped together, the resulting release of energy spawned our Universe.
Many, many other universes have been created this way. There are two bits of credible evidence that hint M Theory may be credible:
1. A female Italian physicist, whose name escapes me, has identified a "hole" in the map of the Universe that may be where it touches a brane or another universe;
2. Dark Flow Theory, a mysterious collective motion of distant galaxy clusters.
As most of us know, the Big Bang is theorized to be the point of origin of our Universe. M Theory says that membranes, since shortened to just "branes," compose the Multiverse. When two of them bumped together, the resulting release of energy spawned our Universe.
Many, many other universes have been created this way. There are two bits of credible evidence that hint M Theory may be credible:
1. A female Italian physicist, whose name escapes me, has identified a "hole" in the map of the Universe that may be where it touches a brane or another universe;
2. Dark Flow Theory, a mysterious collective motion of distant galaxy clusters.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I think what may also be terrifying is when we start to try and transfer sentience to other beings. I have no doubt that one day, people will want their cat or dog to respond to them in a different way.
I think other creatures, even plants, have degrees of sentience already. We are the most advanced but it's difficult to live with a dog or cat and not recognize their abilities to think, even reason.
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Imagine a universe with only self-sufficient, self-maintaining machines after all organic life has perished.
The vast majority of the Universe is composed of energy. Energy is matter in motion, therefore matter is energy that isn't in motion. Does it really matter, no pun intended, the nature of what composes life? Organic matter is merely that which includes carbon.
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I wonder what'll happen when our sentient mechanical arm reaches the edge of the universe (should there be one) and tries to cross into other universes like a virus?
Perhaps it's the natural process of life as a chemical chain reaction.
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If we don't kill each other first.
That would be especially tragic if we are indeed the beginnings of conscious intelligence.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:35 pm to AUX3
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Some people watch too many movies.
It is a very real idea that has some tech minds worried. Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk...they all are worried about the potential of AI.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:48 pm to 5thTiger
We've been using AI for some time now. There's no need to worry, I think, until it becomes conscious.
Even then, it would seem to me that AI represents the logical next step in the evolution of intelligence. It offers the only reasonable answer to intelligence and life expanding into the Universe from Earth.
We can think of a dark side to everything. Maybe some other species should have worried about humans becoming conscious.
Even then, it would seem to me that AI represents the logical next step in the evolution of intelligence. It offers the only reasonable answer to intelligence and life expanding into the Universe from Earth.
We can think of a dark side to everything. Maybe some other species should have worried about humans becoming conscious.
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