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re: I've about had enough of sending the gubmint my money

Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

it sucks big fat purple hippopotamus dicks.


Something all self-employed can agree on. I understand what it's for, but I sure as hell don't understand why it went up so much. No need to answer and I think the answer would probably just piss me off more.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 12:26 am to
Leave it up to dumb Americans to not be able to tell the difference between paying paycheck to paycheck and paying on April 15
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 5:52 am to
And the self employment isn't even subject to your expenses correct? They deduct that off the top and then factor in your expenses before applying the standard tax rate for your bracket. At least that's how it seemed to work for me.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 7:37 am to
quote:

And the self employment isn't even subject to your expenses correct? They deduct that off the top and then factor in your expenses before applying the standard tax rate for your bracket. At least that's how it seemed to work for me.




I believe that's correct, but I think the first $18,000 is exempt. I may be wrong.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 7:48 am to
Yep, I spent most of last year as a contractor. That check I just wrote sucked.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 7:53 am to
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Leave it up to dumb Americans to not be able to tell the difference between paying paycheck to paycheck and paying on April 15


Pray tell, exactly what is the difference, other than timing? I am working under the assumption that the end result is the same either way. Enlighten me if I am wrong.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:11 am to
I don't think there's any exemption on the front. After you make $400 in SE income you gotta file SE.

There is a limit to the SE tax. It applies to your first $117,000 of income for 2014.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:29 am to
If you're self employed and wait to pay all your taxes on 4/15, you're most likely going to get hit with underpayment penalties. That's about the only difference in regards to the bottom line of taxes paid.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:43 am to
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taxes suck in general. We should be able to run a basic government without them.


I always laugh at people who blame the government and taxes. You do realize without a government, we would essentially be like Africa right? The government NEEDS taxes to run.

Things that would not exist without taxes:

Roads
Military
Education system
government jobs

Just a few examples.

Can the tax code be improved? sure. But blaming the "gubmint" or taxes is not the answer.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111519 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:45 am to
Who will build the roooooooaaaaadddddddssss!???!!!
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:46 am to
I think Canadian roads, maybe just the highways, are privatized. Idk. I've heard that.

Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:48 am to
I think you'd be surprised at how little of certain taxes, like income tax goes to infrastructure and the like.

Much of it goes right down the drain, paying interest on loans.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:51 am to
Oh, I'm very aware of the percentages of the federal government and taxes. Economics is one of my degrees.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:52 am to
Oh. Right.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:29 am to
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That's why you start the business in a relatives name and pay yourself a salary plus a "bonus" at the end of the fiscal year. The bonus puts your company 1 dollar in the red for the year. your relative writes off loss on his/her taxes and you only pay the regular income tax since you're listed as being employed by your relative.
But then you miss out on an incredible amount of tax breaks (home, car, mileage, "equipment," season tickets, fine restaurants, etc.) that, for me anyway, easily outweigh any self-employment tax.

ETA: This is in no way saying that self-employment tax isn't a crock of shite.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Aid to Israel: $3.1B
Total welfare spending: $393B
It's much easier to control people with bribery. Especially when you can use other people's money to do it.
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