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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:04 pm to Rebelgator
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:04 pm to Rebelgator
No he didn't. Did you even listen to the audio? 
He didn't use a slur at all. Get your facts straight before debating me, old sport.
He didn't use a slur at all. Get your facts straight before debating me, old sport.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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He didn't use a slur at all
Exactly.
What he said, while being totally fricked up, was on par with what players have said before and continue to say.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:09 pm to Rebelgator
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Exactly.
So you were wrong.
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What he said, while being totally fricked up
Players don't have as much power as Sterling did.
And I still haven't heard a player say black people white people or any others shouldn't be coming to their games.
That's what got Sterling in hot water.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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And I still haven't heard a player say black people white people or any others shouldn't be coming to their games.
Larry Johnson said there should be a racially segregated league. He was probably suspended and fined, though.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:15 pm to the808bass
He should have been.
I hate Larry Johnson. He is a fool and a tool. frick him and frick the Knicks he played for.
He's not an owner btw.
I hate Larry Johnson. He is a fool and a tool. frick him and frick the Knicks he played for.
He's not an owner btw.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
What about Kobe? He seems to have an issue with gay refs.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:33 pm to Rebelgator
Kobe Bean Bryant can say and think whatever he god damn pleases okay?!
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:56 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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He's not an owner btw.
He is an employee and representative of the NBA. Half-life of a white front office exec saying whites need their own league? I've got under 2 hours. I'm not angry about it, though. It's just the way it is.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:20 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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And I still haven't heard a player say black people white people or any others shouldn't be coming to their games.
I know we got in to this before. However, I listen to a lot of sports radio, and I still don't remember him saying that. Did I miss it?
Dude told his side piece that he may or may not have been banging that he didn't want her bringing black dudes to the game. I'm assuming that her guests were getting free access based on her connection, so I guess I don't see the issue.
I don't see myself ever being in the position, but if I owned a team and I didn't want someone I was giving free tickets to bringing someone in that I didn't like, wouldn't that kind of be my decision?
I think the dude sucks, but mostly because of his real estate dealings than the NBA/taped conversations that came out. I just figure he can choose who his free access goes to.
The fact that everyone's mad about the tapes pisses me off. Dude was literally kicking people out of their homes just a few years ago.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:31 pm to Mizzeaux
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Dude told his side piece that he may or may not have been banging that he didn't want her bringing black dudes to the game. I'm assuming that her guests were getting free access based on her connection, so I guess I don't see the issue.
Whether or not said guests were getting free access is irrelevant. He was telling her not to bring certain people to the game based solely on skin color.
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if I owned a team and I didn't want someone I was giving free tickets to bringing someone in that I didn't like, wouldn't that kind of be my decision?
It would be, but you damn well better not let it come out that those are your druthers.
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The fact that everyone's mad about the tapes pisses me off. Dude was literally kicking people out of their homes just a few years ago.
He's a piece of shite. I was pissed about that, too, but this is the faux pas that gained traction.
Good riddance.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:42 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Whether or not said guests were getting free access is irrelevant. He was telling her not to bring certain people to the game based solely on skin color.
I disagree, dude. And I know this is where we get in to this disagreement between each other. Dude is prejudiced and racist for sure. However, that's not illegal. You can be a racist piece of shite and still be fine in the eyes of the law as long as you're not being racist in hiring or anything covered by law.
He owns the team, he gave her the ability to grant free access to the games, he's got a place to say who she can and can't give that access to. I realize it's racially charged because he said he didn't want black dudes there, but that's his absolute right as the owner and giving access for free.
If he said he didn't want her bringing Lakers fans to the game for free, this wouldn't be an issue and he'd still be as big a piece of shite as he is today. That's his right just like anything else.
Like I said, dude is a piece of shite, and I agree, good riddance. However, the faux pas is a bullshite reason, and most people's outrage with this guy is based on a flawed premise. He can control his free access to anyone based on his ownership. Hell, if you read the ticket, the organization probably reserves the right to kick anyone out anyways, even if they paid.
Like I said, If you're going to be mad at Sterling, be mad because he was kicking black families out of their homes instead of being mad he didn't want this chick giving free tickets to black dudes.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 11:52 pm to Mizzeaux
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I disagree, dude. And I know this is where we get in to this disagreement between each other. Dude is prejudiced and racist for sure. However, that's not illegal. You can be a racist piece of shite and still be fine in the eyes of the law as long as you're not being racist in hiring or anything covered by law.
The NBA is not saying that he violated any laws.
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I realize it's racially charged because he said he didn't want black dudes there, but that's his absolute right as the owner and giving access for free.
And it's the NBA's right to treat such druthers with prejudice if/when they're brought to light. Owning a franchise in the Association is a privilege, not a right.
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Like I said, dude is a piece of shite, and I agree, good riddance.
Agree.
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the faux pas is a bullshite reason
Disagree.
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most people's outrage with this guy is based on a flawed premise
There is nothing flawed about someone like me wanting him to be removed from a product I consume because of his bigotry.
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the organization probably reserves the right to kick anyone out anyways, even if they paid.
Not based solely upon skin color like he laid out, they don't.
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Like I said, If you're going to be mad at Sterling, be mad because he was kicking black families out of their homes
I already said I was pissed about that.
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instead of being mad he didn't want this chick giving free tickets to black dudes.
I'll be mad at that, too.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:00 am to TbirdSpur2010
I guess the position I come from is thinking about my buddy that owns an Asian American club here in Vegas.
Dude will hand out free cover charge vouchers and drink tickets to Asian girls because Asian dudes like Asian girls and Asian dudes spend a lot of money at his Asian club.
He's being really selective in who he gives free access to and it's based almost 100% on race. It's his right as an owner of a business. I just see it as a slippery slope.
Obviously the NBA has a right to kick him out for it, I just wonder how this type of issue will eventually lead to someone asking what percentage of free tickets are given out by NBA owners are given to lower/middle income individuals. I personally think the owners should be able to give their free tickets out to whomever the frick they chose, the NBA obviously disagrees.
I'd prefer team owners got to give tickets out to anyone they want instead of having it based on some formula of equality. Sterling sucks, but who's to say Kohl isn't giving his tickets to Bucks games out only to people with annual incomes of higher than $500,000? Should the public go after him next? It's obviously unfair and he's biased against poor/middle income people.
Know what I mean?
Dude will hand out free cover charge vouchers and drink tickets to Asian girls because Asian dudes like Asian girls and Asian dudes spend a lot of money at his Asian club.
He's being really selective in who he gives free access to and it's based almost 100% on race. It's his right as an owner of a business. I just see it as a slippery slope.
Obviously the NBA has a right to kick him out for it, I just wonder how this type of issue will eventually lead to someone asking what percentage of free tickets are given out by NBA owners are given to lower/middle income individuals. I personally think the owners should be able to give their free tickets out to whomever the frick they chose, the NBA obviously disagrees.
I'd prefer team owners got to give tickets out to anyone they want instead of having it based on some formula of equality. Sterling sucks, but who's to say Kohl isn't giving his tickets to Bucks games out only to people with annual incomes of higher than $500,000? Should the public go after him next? It's obviously unfair and he's biased against poor/middle income people.
Know what I mean?
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:06 am to Mizzeaux
I get what you're trying to say, but I just think that the two situations aren't really analogous, I guess.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:13 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I get what you're trying to say, but I just think that the two situations aren't really analogous, I guess.
It's all about chipping away at a business owner's rights to do what he wants with his business. It's just easier in this situation because Sterling sucks and is a bigot and racial issues are big, but it really does come down to taking away people's ability to do what they want with their business.
That's all I'm saying. It's all I'll ever say about this situation. That's the main/only point in this whole situation. Dude owns a business and is having it taken away based on who he wanted to exclude from free access.
It's like having your house taken away because you didn't want a girl you were trying to bang bring her boyfriend to your super bowl party.
That's the way I look at it. Strip away with racial shite, and that's all it is. I respect you, your opinion, and your perspective on this issue, but all I can see is that.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:19 am to Mizzeaux
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It's all about chipping away at a business owner's rights to do what he wants with his business.
Again, ownership in the NBA is a privilege, not a right.
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It's just easier in this situation because Sterling sucks and is a bigot and racial issues are big, but it really does come down to taking away people's ability to do what they want with their business.
The Clippers are one franchise in the NBA conglomerate. That's why I was saying that your anecdote wasn't necessarily analogous.
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Dude owns a business and is having it taken away based on who he wanted to exclude from free access.
He owns a portion of the NBA. The NBA is the overarching business.
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That's the way I look at it. Strip away with racial shite, and that's all it is. I respect you, your opinion, and your perspective on this issue, but all I can see is that.
I appreciate that, and I hear what you're saying, but I don't believe business owners in different situations than being NBA owners are threatened by this any more than is reasonable.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:35 am to TbirdSpur2010
Winners:
NBA - Getting him out of the league
Federal Government - Huge payday
California - Huge payday
Donald Sterling's heirs
Losers:
Donald Sterling - I really think he'd rather have the team than the money
Steve Ballmer - Overpaid for an asset.
NBA - Getting him out of the league
Federal Government - Huge payday
California - Huge payday
Donald Sterling's heirs
Losers:
Donald Sterling - I really think he'd rather have the team than the money
Steve Ballmer - Overpaid for an asset.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:37 am to Anfield Road
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Steve Ballmer - Overpaid for an asset
Maybe....time will tell on that one, I suppose
The Clippers have succeeded of late in spite of DS. It'll be interesting to see what tack the franchise takes going forward.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:39 am to Rebelgator
This shite is so ridiculous
Everybody is so damn racist, we all suck. Get over it.
Everybody is so damn racist, we all suck. Get over it.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:42 am to TbirdSpur2010
For $4 billion (Market cap of NYSE:MSG), he could have bought Madison Square Garden Company which includes all of the following:
Madison Square Garden
New York Knicks
New York Rangers
Radio City Music Hall
Beacon Theatre
Chicago Theatre
The Great Western Forum
New York Liberty
Hartford Wolf Pack
Hell, for a little over $2 billion, he could have deposed James Dolan.
Madison Square Garden
New York Knicks
New York Rangers
Radio City Music Hall
Beacon Theatre
Chicago Theatre
The Great Western Forum
New York Liberty
Hartford Wolf Pack
Hell, for a little over $2 billion, he could have deposed James Dolan.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 12:44 am
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