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re: Hillbilly Heroin case finally set to go to trail, Purdue Pharma LP in hot water
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:59 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:59 pm to Cheese Grits
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prohibition in the 20's
Not much different than the prohibition of the last several decades. Time to end it.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:47 pm to Cheese Grits
Big Pharma has made more money over the last 15-20 years than they did during all their years prior combined.
The spread of "legal" heroin has coincided with these profits.
Coincidence?
frick naw.
The recreational use of these drugs has led to an increase in heroin addiction, fueling the drug cartels, thus fueling law enforcement budgets in the name of "The Drug War".
Follow the money.
#SleepingTigerLives
The spread of "legal" heroin has coincided with these profits.
Coincidence?
frick naw.
The recreational use of these drugs has led to an increase in heroin addiction, fueling the drug cartels, thus fueling law enforcement budgets in the name of "The Drug War".
Follow the money.
#SleepingTigerLives
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:04 pm to the808bass
The doctors without a doubt deserve some blame, particularly in Florida, but the drug company is just as at fault as the doctors.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:27 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
What is the drug company at fault for, specifically?
Oxy provides a great alternative to morphine for patients actually in pain.
Oxy provides a great alternative to morphine for patients actually in pain.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 6:45 pm to the808bass
The less addictive as ... line. As well as the fact that they knew exactly what was happening for a long long time, just like everyone else did, and made no effort to stop it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:37 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Pretty sure they paid a hefty fine for that line already. If there's more appropriate damages, I guess that's fine.
And a company should have some limited liability for a product as it is directed to use. If I buy a lawnmower and turn the deck upside down and drive around cutting stuff up, that's not the lawnmower's manufacturer's fault.
And it's not that they didn't do anything. They didn't do enough soon enough.
I'm sure the people clamoring for cheap drugs will also cheer a billion dollar fine.
And a company should have some limited liability for a product as it is directed to use. If I buy a lawnmower and turn the deck upside down and drive around cutting stuff up, that's not the lawnmower's manufacturer's fault.
And it's not that they didn't do anything. They didn't do enough soon enough.
I'm sure the people clamoring for cheap drugs will also cheer a billion dollar fine.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:46 pm to Cheese Grits
As someone who practices frequently in Pike County and in front of Stephen Combs, Purdue is going to get wrecked in this lawsuit.
As for the ambulance-chaser guy, you know this lawsuit was filed by Kentucky's Attorney General, right? The Commonwealth of Kentucky is the named Plaintiff in the suit.
Opiates have wrecked the entire state of Kentucky. Between pharma companies providing wonderful perks for doctors prescribing their medications and doctors collaborating with public assistance recipients to defraud Medicare and Medicaid (and in some cases, just accept cash) in order to establish and feed addictions, this is a real problem in my state.
Before becoming an attorney, I worked as a police officer and saw, first hand, the effects of opiate addiction and the incentives that pharma companies offered for doctors, either general practitioners or "pain clinic" docs to prescribe case upon case of their brand of medication.
It took the implementation of KASPER and a crackdown by the DEA to put a dent in what amounted to quasi-legal opiate trafficking.
Now the problem is so large that the opiate addicts, unable to get 180 Oxys a month from a general practitioner, are turning to heroin and dying in droves to overdose.
Jack Conway is seeking to make Purdue help shoulder the costs of addiction treatment in this state. And since Purdue is in Pike County, in front of a Pike County jury and has already admitted to all wrongdoing alleged in the Complaint, they are going to get smoked for a billion dollars.
As for the ambulance-chaser guy, you know this lawsuit was filed by Kentucky's Attorney General, right? The Commonwealth of Kentucky is the named Plaintiff in the suit.
Opiates have wrecked the entire state of Kentucky. Between pharma companies providing wonderful perks for doctors prescribing their medications and doctors collaborating with public assistance recipients to defraud Medicare and Medicaid (and in some cases, just accept cash) in order to establish and feed addictions, this is a real problem in my state.
Before becoming an attorney, I worked as a police officer and saw, first hand, the effects of opiate addiction and the incentives that pharma companies offered for doctors, either general practitioners or "pain clinic" docs to prescribe case upon case of their brand of medication.
It took the implementation of KASPER and a crackdown by the DEA to put a dent in what amounted to quasi-legal opiate trafficking.
Now the problem is so large that the opiate addicts, unable to get 180 Oxys a month from a general practitioner, are turning to heroin and dying in droves to overdose.
Jack Conway is seeking to make Purdue help shoulder the costs of addiction treatment in this state. And since Purdue is in Pike County, in front of a Pike County jury and has already admitted to all wrongdoing alleged in the Complaint, they are going to get smoked for a billion dollars.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 7:59 pm to JDHLaw
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As for the ambulance-chaser guy, you know this lawsuit was filed by Kentucky's Attorney General, right? The Commonwealth of Kentucky is the named Plaintiff in the suit.
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I never said he was an ambulance chaser. I know Jack and helped get him elected. Also know many of his predecessors living and dead. Where did the ambulance chaser comment come from?
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Now the problem is so large that the opiate addicts, unable to get 180 Oxys a month from a general practitioner, are turning to heroin and dying in droves to overdose.
Happend to a friend not too long ago, which is why I would love to see the BoD's on the stand so they can see firsthand what damage has been done. What do you think of Jon's platform for jail reform?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:06 pm to Cheese Grits
Cheese, my ambulance chaser comment was addressing the808bass. I just hit reply on the first post.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:11 pm to JDHLaw
Thanks for clearing that up.
Did you ever take classes at EKU in their program? I knew AB when he was still a patrolman and his room mate ML. Such different type of folks. ML was part of that group I knew who are either dead or retired now. I also knew KB before he went downhill and got busted for cooking meth in his mom's house.
Did you ever take classes at EKU in their program? I knew AB when he was still a patrolman and his room mate ML. Such different type of folks. ML was part of that group I knew who are either dead or retired now. I also knew KB before he went downhill and got busted for cooking meth in his mom's house.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:51 pm to JDHLaw
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Before becoming an attorney, I worked as a police officer and saw, first hand, the effects of opiate addiction and the incentives that pharma companies offered for doctors, either general practitioners or "pain clinic" docs to prescribe case upon case of their brand of medication.
What incentives did you see?
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As for the ambulance-chaser guy, you know this lawsuit was filed by Kentucky's Attorney General, right? The Commonwealth of Kentucky is the named Plaintiff in the suit.
The state suing corporations oftentimes bears more than a passing resemblance to ambulance chasers.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:06 pm to the808bass
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What incentives did you see?
Is this a serious question? You honestly can't think of any incentive for a doctor to over- or falsely prescribe addictive medication?
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The state suing corporations oftentimes bears more than a passing resemblance to ambulance chasers.
So your definition of ambulance chasing encompasses any entity suing any other entity?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:11 pm to the808bass
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The state suing corporations oftentimes bears more than a passing resemblance to ambulance chasers.
Conway is no Conn
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:22 pm to JDHLaw
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Is this a serious question?
It is. I have a very good idea of incentives drugs rep used. I was curious about the specific ones you witnessed. Rhetorical questions as answers are usually a good sign as to what was actually witnessed.
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your definition of ambulance chasing
Is an entity chasing money with tangential connections to fault.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:36 am to the808bass
The original OC formulation that was easy to crush and abuse was responsible for many people switching to heroin. In my area I had never even seen heroin until the formulation of oxy was changed to the tamper resistant version. Heroin is much cheaper and more potent, which is why it gained so much ground.
There is still instant release oxy on the market under the name roxycodone that it just as easy to crush and abuse as the original oxy formulation. Prices are outrageous however. A single 30mg tablet of roxy sells for $20-$30. The crazy amount of money they sell for has caused many disabled people who get the scrips to sell them.
There is still instant release oxy on the market under the name roxycodone that it just as easy to crush and abuse as the original oxy formulation. Prices are outrageous however. A single 30mg tablet of roxy sells for $20-$30. The crazy amount of money they sell for has caused many disabled people who get the scrips to sell them.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:10 pm to the808bass
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I was a drug rep years ago. I don't have any fondness for the industry.
So what drug did you rep?
Why did you leave the industry, especially if some stereotypes are not true as you imply?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:19 pm to Cheese Grits
I sold Plavix, Ambien and Allegra
And a host of other products.
Left because it was a boring job. It was just checking the boxes administratively. There was no "sales" to it. And there's plenty of people who fit the stereotype. I just didn't.
So I left to start my own company. After learning not to start a company with family, I'm back in medical sales. Just on the service side.
And a host of other products.
Left because it was a boring job. It was just checking the boxes administratively. There was no "sales" to it. And there's plenty of people who fit the stereotype. I just didn't.
So I left to start my own company. After learning not to start a company with family, I'm back in medical sales. Just on the service side.
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