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re: "Hey Y'all!" its bid day at Arkansas!

Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by UMTigerRebel
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:15 pm to
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Every time I see other SEC schools show Frat/Sorority stuff I'm reminded of how different we really are. Greek life just doesn't matter much to anyone at UT - even the Sorors and Fraters don't take it very seriously.

It probably had something to do with sororities not being able to have houses.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:32 pm to
Recently there's actually been a lot of girls that didn't get bid's just from sheer numbers.

So... for girls thay don't get bids here... do they just slowly Irish exit or do they wait around and clean up after everyone leaves
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:36 pm to
So sad to see young women so chubby.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:54 pm to
Now this is fappable
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:17 pm to
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It probably had something to do with sororities not being able to have houses.



I do think that's part of it but they've always had their own place even without houses and Frat Row definitely has their own. But I also think the fact that E. TN never developed the social mores and cultural norms the same way the rest of the South or even our own state did, is a part of it. Back when frats were establishing culture there wasn't really social or stratification by class. Even if you were rich you were expected to not act like it and hang with all kinds of people. We never had plantation society and northern-style blueblood type societies were virtually non-existent as well.

Even so, it's still strange that it never developed even centuries later in a way that even comes close to resembling other schools but it didn't. We're an anomaly (weird) when it comes to all that.

Even today when people describe the modern society type stuff in Nashville it's strange to me.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:27 pm to
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We never had plantation society and northern-style blueblood type societies were virtually non-existent as well.


And this has what to do with Greek life?
Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 10:50 pm to
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And this has what to do with Greek life?


Nothing directly but a LOT in a less direct way. What I'm saying is that the culture of high society and various social societies never developed the same way it did in a lot of places. IOW, we don't have a rigid class system and we're an old enough university to where those things would've shaped our culture. We were established in 1794 and were the first/oldest secular (non-denominational, virtually all unis had some affiliation with religion/religious sponsors even Harvard back then) this side of the Continental Divide and we are one of the oldest public unis in the US.

To put how old we are into perspective - Thomas Jefferson is the one who suggested to us that we should move to the Hill when the campus ran out of room where it was at.

Frats were initially designed because students attended roll call and their names were called by virtue of their social class/family and frats provided a way to rise/make up for being of a less influential family in that area. But social class wasn't the same here. IOW, they didn't fill the same needs because of our broader culture and so very likely didn't gain the same cultural importance on campus that they did in the North East and other Southern schools.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:01 pm to
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At UT it's there it's just that everyone is so much more chill. No one even cares about Greek/Non-greek stuff.


Arkansas was more like that 15-20 years ago. Frat was very important in the 80s, fell way off in the 90s, but it is larger than ever now. We're in the top 3-4 SEC schools in both greek community size and percentage of greek participation.

Posted by Prof
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:09 pm to
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Arkansas was more like that 15-20 years ago. Frat was very important in the 80s, fell way off in the 90s, but it is larger than ever now. We're in the top 3-4 SEC schools in both greek community size and percentage of greek participation.


That doesn't surprise since NW Arky had a great deal in common with E. TN when it comes to the various class issues - those distinctions just not being important as compared to elsewhere. It does surprise me that it's changed that much BUT so many more people now have college degrees and even in the older areas society is changing. Class lines are hardening in the sense that it's harder to move upwards than it used to be while at the same time we seek prestige and connections more and more as a society - beyond the fun, brotherhood, and old tests on file, Frats offer that kind of prestige and networking that can help.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 11:13 pm
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 11:18 pm to
I don't know if its solely due to increased class consciousness in the region. There has been a big increase in money in the region, but I think a bigger driver is suburban north Texas kids coming here in much higher numbers.

We tend to get the creative and/or fratty ones that can't get into Texas, but want a more frat-oriented school. OU an A&M don't offer that as strong as we do. We get lots that want that combined with the local outdoorsy, natural lifestyle thing. Good college town, outdoors, and established greek system are appealing to a lot of Texas kids who weren't coming here 10-15 years ago. In-state vs out-of-state is about 50/50 for the freshman class last year. We'll probably have a strong majority out of state for the first time this fall.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 1:16 am to
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I don't know if its solely due to increased class consciousness in the region. There has been a big increase in money in the region, but I think a bigger driver is suburban north Texas kids coming here in much higher numbers.


Oh I agree with you that it's probably not one thing. The increased money in the area makes sense as does the increase in a lot of out of state kids from the burbs.
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