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Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:40 pm to KSGamecock
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:40 pm to KSGamecock
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Pioneer of combined-arms warfare and the blitzkrieg that took France and Russia by storm. Pretty much the father of many modern approaches to war.
Blitzkrieg is STILL the foundation of attack strategy, and will be for the foreseeable future. First the planes, then the tanks, then the infantry. The Germans invented it and we're still doing it.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 12:43 pm to scrooster
Scipio was undefeated against Hannibal.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 3:22 pm to antibarner
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3..Stonewall Jackson- outstanding leader and the South's finest corps commander, had he lived might the South have won at Gettysburg? Very likely.
Had he lived Gettysburg would not have happened. He would of told Lee to just keep playing defense. Draw the war out, and eventually we would of gotten a treaty. That or the British show up.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:49 pm to Rayburn8
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we would of gotten a treaty.
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Posted on 2/7/15 at 5:48 pm to KSGamecock
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Saladin
Posted on 2/7/15 at 7:36 pm to Rayburn8
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3..Stonewall Jackson- outstanding leader and the South's finest corps commander, had he lived might the South have won at Gettysburg? Very likely.
Had he lived Gettysburg would not have happened. He would of told Lee to just keep playing defense. Draw the war out, and eventually we would of gotten a treaty. That or the British show up.
Don't agree with your statement about Stonewall and playing defense. Jackson was a very agressive commander and was actually pushing Confederate authorities to invade the North as early as 1862. Strike quick, strike hard and punish the North and the Northern people was Jackson's desire.
Longstreet was the general that adhered to defensive philosophy. He disagreed with Lee's agressive stance at Gettysburg.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 9:50 pm to Rayburn8
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Had he lived Gettysburg would not have happened. He would of told Lee to just keep playing defense. Draw the war out, and eventually we would of gotten a treaty. That or the British show up.
All Lee had to do was listen to Longstreet. It's ironic that Jackson was his hammer and Longstreet was the anvil. But even with Jackson dead, Lee still insisted on attacking with Longstreet's corps. Longstreet's heart wasn't in it and he performed badly.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 2/7/15 at 10:48 pm to No Colors
Put some golden pussy before Khan and/or Napoleon and he/they would have won whatever battle/war you needed won. Put some father's pride in front of Alexander and he would have done likewise.
Posted on 2/7/15 at 11:24 pm to derSturm37
Had Lee listened to Longstreet Gettysburg probably does not happen...Newt Gingrich co authored an alternate history series on this very subject that was extremely plausible. Longstreet talked Lee into flanking The Army of the Potomac and they did so, seizing the North's supply hub at Westminster and entrenching on Meade's original intended defensive site at Pipe Creek. Meade was forced to attack and the Union Army was crushed.
But the South did not win the war. Lincoln refused to give in Grant came east and the manpower and industrial might of the North still prevailed.
Had Jackson lived he could have made a big difference on Day 1, seizing Culp's Hill with his far more aggressive tactics. Gettysburg was probably Lee's worst battle of the war, it should have never happened.
But one man never gets much blame and probably should get his fair share, which would be a LOT. That man is J.E.B. Stuart. Had he done his job screening the Army of Northern Virginia from the prying eyes of Buford and kept Lee informed as he should have of Meade's taking command and subsequent movements, this battle does not happen.
But the South did not win the war. Lincoln refused to give in Grant came east and the manpower and industrial might of the North still prevailed.
Had Jackson lived he could have made a big difference on Day 1, seizing Culp's Hill with his far more aggressive tactics. Gettysburg was probably Lee's worst battle of the war, it should have never happened.
But one man never gets much blame and probably should get his fair share, which would be a LOT. That man is J.E.B. Stuart. Had he done his job screening the Army of Northern Virginia from the prying eyes of Buford and kept Lee informed as he should have of Meade's taking command and subsequent movements, this battle does not happen.
This post was edited on 2/7/15 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:36 pm to sms151t
Alexander the Grest never list a battle
Posted on 2/8/15 at 6:48 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
Gaius Marius.
In one battle,Marius led 40,000 Roman soldiers against 120,000 at Aquae Sextiae against the feared Germanic tribes who had been having their way with one Roman General after another. Marius killed or captured 110,000 of the enemy, losing less than 1,000 of his own troops.
In one battle,Marius led 40,000 Roman soldiers against 120,000 at Aquae Sextiae against the feared Germanic tribes who had been having their way with one Roman General after another. Marius killed or captured 110,000 of the enemy, losing less than 1,000 of his own troops.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:58 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
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Greatest Military leader of all time?
Alexander the Grest never list a battle
Supposedly.
It's very possible that he fought to a standstill in India and the "mutiny" was to cover that up.
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