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re: Facts Most Americans Are Too Fearful to Face

Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:16 am to
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35657 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:16 am to
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Quadaffi and Hussein tried to switch the world currency to gold that didn't workout too well for either of them
It was just coincidence....you know....Moooslems, and all.

Hey, let's ask JFK how fricking with the Fed worked out for him.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Rebelgator
Pripyat Bridge
Member since Mar 2010
39543 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:40 am to
Just end it already
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:32 pm to
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10-square-mile grid


D.C. is not a 10 square mile grid. Originally, it was 10 miles squared (i.e. 100 square miles), but after retrocession of present-day Arlington and Alexandria to Virginia, the District of Columbia currently occupies 69 square miles.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:41 pm to
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That we are not "the Land of the Free". Tell me someone who will tell you that, and I will show you someone who has rarely, if ever, left the country.


Having lived in Mexico City for nearly four years now, I can unilaterally tell you America is one of the most free countries on the planet.

I hear about police brutality because someone resisted and the cop wrestled them down and handcuffed them -- meanwhile, here in Mexico, some 30+ people can be outright murdered by police and there's nothing on the global scale.

Hell, 47 people were murdered in Guerrero state (by the government) and it barely made international news.

One black kid gets waxed because he chose to try and fight a cop? International scandal.

Maybe some countries in Europe have it a bit better, but aside from that? Almost no where.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:43 pm to
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debt-based fiat worthless paper money


You do realize that if the world suddenly turned to a gold (or other commodity, like oil) standard, it would instantly transform some other countries (Russia, the Middle East, maybe South Africa) into the richest countries in the world, right?

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ISIS psyop narrative


This is not a new phenomenon. Al Qaeda grew out of the Mujahadeen we supported in Afghanistan against the Soviets. We supported Saddam Hussein when he was at war with Iran. Why in the world we think that we can benefit from taking sides and/or helping with regime change in the Muslim world is beyond me. We helped the people who eventually formed ISIS so they could overthrow Assad in Syria, and now, like all their predecessors who accepted help from us in fighting a common enemy, they have turned against us and our allies.
This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108821 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Having lived in Mexico City for nearly four years now, I can unilaterally tell you America is one of the most free countries on the planet.


I mean, it's in the top 10%, but there are still plenty of things I can get away with in Europe and many other countries that it's just ridiculous we can't do here.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:46 pm to
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I mean, it's in the top 10%, but there are still plenty of things I can get away with in Europe and many other countries that it's just ridiculous we can't do here.


You can definitely get away with it, you just need to be more subtle. Maybe that's asking too much, but having seen the other end of the spectrum -- like paying cops for ''bending the grass'', having my friend mugged by police officers and having college students outright murdered and left in a shallow mass grave, it just makes me shrug when I hear people bitching about stuff in the first world.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 12:53 pm to
Pretty shocking stuff. It's almost enough to make you lose faith in the country you were raised to love so deeply. It's almost enough to make you lose faith in those around you for not being able to see the truth. Almost enough, in fact, to make you never want to trust another elected official or anyone else who is supposed to be looking after your best interests.














It's almost enough to make you want to be in a coma, no?
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:12 pm to
It's a damn pity that women's suffrage is still a "thing" in the 21st century.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 1:59 pm to
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This isn't entirely true.

7 members of the Federal Reserve's Board of Governors are appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. The remaining 5 are the presidents of the regional Federal Reserve Banks. These 12 also make up the Federal Open Market Committee which happens to (essentially) set interest rates in the country.

So, Federal appointees actually do have a controlling vote on the monetary supply in this country... so, while the Federal Reserve Banks are technically private, they are run by Federal appointees (7 members gives the government a controlling majority on the Board of Governors and the Open Market Committee).

The real reality is that our Founders never imagined a fiat currency system. However, a fiat currency system is a necessity in the modern world... like it or not. Going back to a commodity standard (the gold standard) would require the agreement of over 200 nations because one country, on its own, can't just revert to a commodity based currency when the rest of the world operates on a fiat basis - it would completely frick exchange rates in ways that I can't even begin to understand.

I'll add that a return to the gold standard isn't the panacea that a lot of people imagine it to be... Gold backed currency was the cause of a lot of war and colonialism. It was also the foundation of mercantilism (export more than you import and minimize domestic demand for consumer goods in order to amass national wealth)... None of these things would actually be good for Americans in the 21st century despite what Ron Paul (who I like on a lot of issues) says.


You're lost.

Severely lost.

Fiat currency can exist, and should, probably.

The key is where it comes from and how it's brought into existence.

The Treasury has the power to create currency, regulate it's quantity and preserve it's value -- they can do this without creating interest. Lincoln and JFK are the two presidents to do such a thing and we know how that ended.

The central banking system loans money into existence, creating an automatic and perpetual debt spiral.

A dollar is created at interest, but another one has to be created to pay the interest, but that dollar has interest.

It's a ponzi scheme.

Very complex and elaborate, but also very simple.

Private corporations are creating currency and loaning it into existence. This is not how it's supposed to be done.

Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:00 pm to
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Women voting caused


a lot of shite.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 11:45 pm to
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The entire debt-based fiat worthless paper money circulating in the U.S. is supplied and controlled by a private corporation with no legal authority to do so.

We call them the Federal Reserve. It’s the illegal private banking system created officially in 1913 under the Federal Reserve Act which Congress gave a green light to. This single act essentially handed the United States of America to a gang of private bankers with no accountability to the people. Along with the Act of 1871, this Federal Reserve Act is also one of the most significant and horrific turning points in the history of America. An act that accounts for many of the problems and sufferings in America for now over 100 years.

If enough people could finally wrap their heads around this single reality, that a private illegal mob of banksters have psyched out and enslaved Americans, fooling them into accepting their fake fiat currency while ensuring their perpetual enslavement, the full-on revolution would start today.


This is absolutely and completely true. The federal reserve is a criminal institution and has no business existing much less controlling our currency. They are holding our purchasing power hostage and continually bring about inflation which destroys economies.

The federal reserve needs to be destroyed and full mint and currency powers returned to the Treasury department which is where it belongs as intended by the framers of the supreme law of the land.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:08 am to
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The federal reserve is a criminal institution and has no business existing much less controlling our currency. They are holding our purchasing power hostage and continually bring about inflation which destroys economies.

The federal reserve needs to be destroyed and full mint and currency powers returned to the Treasury department which is where it belongs as intended by the framers of the supreme law of the land.



If there was a word that meant 1 zillion times what 'unbelievable' means, that word would be used to describe the utter amazement that people haven't figured this out and joined together to stop this issue that overrides everything.

It overrides every single divide and conquer political topic and all political branding.



This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:13 am to
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:19 am to
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TX Tiger


You are a fricking stooge
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:35 am to
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They are holding our purchasing power hostage and continually bring about inflation which destroys economies. 


Do you guys hear yourselves? What in the world are you talking about? The financial system is fine. Lay off the weed.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:37 am to
Satoshi Nakamoto...
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:51 am to
You're not even capable of comprehending a simple sentence.

Money is created as debt because it's loaned into existence.

Money should be created as a simple means for trade, that's it.

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The American Revolution was fought because England banned our ability to create currency interest free.

If you want to have your head in your arse 100% of the time, fine, but don't act like you have a clue what you're talking about.
Posted by zelman
Bogan Walk
Member since Feb 2015
2400 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:59 am to
Debt is property. That is basic, basic finance 101. You dumb.
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