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Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:02 am to harmonics
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I prod and poke, but it's all fun and games to me. I like to think I still stick to me original beliefs without trying to manipulate others.
Dude, I'm married to a woman who buys the whole package--let's just say there's a lot of unspoken/softspoken understanding. I support her, how she wants to raise our kids, etc.
But if she ever asks, I share my reservations and doubts. For the kids, I get all psychiatrist/Devil's Advocate on them: "What do YOU think?"
If this conversation started another way, I'd probably be defending religion and Christianity.
Most of the people I know would self identify as Christian--. I have a lot of respect (for any number of reasons, including their belief system, or for other things) for many of those.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:15 am to Grievous Angel
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Dude, I'm married to a woman who buys the whole package--let's just say there's a lot of unspoken/softspoken understanding. I support her, how she wants to raise our kids, etc.
That's how my father was.
It wasn't until I had developed my own skepticism, and started asking his opinion, that he admitted that he shared the same sentiment.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:17 am to Grievous Angel
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But if she ever asks, I share my reservations and doubts.
Oh yeah, that is a totally different situation.
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I have a lot of respect (for any number of reasons, including their belief system, or for other things) for many of those.
I have met very few Christians who try to honor their faith the way they are supposed to according to their doctrine. But for those who have, I have a lot of respect for.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 1:59 am to Grievous Angel
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Dude, I'm married to a woman who buys the whole package--let's just say there's a lot of unspoken/softspoken understanding. I support her, how she wants to raise our kids, etc.
But if she ever asks, I share my reservations and doubts. For the kids, I get all psychiatrist/Devil's Advocate on them: "What do YOU think?"
If this conversation started another way, I'd probably be defending religion and Christianity.
Most of the people I know would self identify as Christian--. I have a lot of respect (for any number of reasons, including their belief system, or for other things) for many of those.
That's great to hear.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 4:28 am to harmonics
Plus they are probably more annoying than Christians at his point
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:45 am to Stacked
Man showed up 6000 years ago. Earth is much older.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 6:46 am to Stacked
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Earth is 6,000 years old
No it's probably MUCH older; like billions. No one knows how long the time "gap" is between verses 1 thru 3 in Genesis....NO ONE except God. A day in the life of God does not equal a day in the life of man.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:50 am to harmonics
quote:Why don't Christians just believe in god and go along their merry way? Seriously, get a fricking life.
Why? Just don't believe in God and go on your merry way. Seriously get a fricking life.
quote:Maybe Atheists spreading the word of no god is part of being an Atheist.
I understand Christians trying to spread the word of God, it's a part of being a Christian.
quote:I don't believe. I don't disbelieve. I just don't really care. I do care about either side trying to jam their views on other people. Both sides should be accountable for their annoying, loud-mouthed fricks.
I don't believe in God, but I'm not going to label myself and try to convince others to believe what I do. If being a Christian or worshiping that tree over there makes you a better person, then more power to you.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 7:59 am to Stacked
You do realize Adam had a pet dinosaur?
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:01 am to Grievous Angel
Dear Grievous, if thats a picture of you, then strongly suggest you start on salads and shave the neck beard.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:19 am to harmonics
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I understand Christians trying to spread the word of God, it's a part of being a Christian
I don't try to dissuade people from their religious beliefs, so get your bullshite out of my face, stop asking me if I've accepted Jesus as my lord and savior, and stop knocking on my door. It gets REALLY fricking old.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:06 am to Stacked
so it's pretty obvious that i'm a christian, but i do my best to not throw out logic and common sense.
What we know of the first 5 books of the Bible, they were written by Moses in his time in the wilderness. Obviously that can't be entirely true because Moses dies in chapter 34 of Deuteronomy and wasn't there for Genesis or the first few chapters of Exodus
Needless to say, to think everything was spot on in the handing down of the creation story to Moses is fairly naive. I'm not calling any of the Bible wrong or inaccurate, but if it comes out that how things were explained are a bit of lore I'll buy it.
So do i think the creation story is probably a bit different than what we have in Genesis? most likely. Is it going to rock my faith if somebody comes out disproving one facet of creation? not a chance. Am i going to be surprised to find out that we really are a young earth or old earth? nope.
What we know of the first 5 books of the Bible, they were written by Moses in his time in the wilderness. Obviously that can't be entirely true because Moses dies in chapter 34 of Deuteronomy and wasn't there for Genesis or the first few chapters of Exodus
Needless to say, to think everything was spot on in the handing down of the creation story to Moses is fairly naive. I'm not calling any of the Bible wrong or inaccurate, but if it comes out that how things were explained are a bit of lore I'll buy it.
So do i think the creation story is probably a bit different than what we have in Genesis? most likely. Is it going to rock my faith if somebody comes out disproving one facet of creation? not a chance. Am i going to be surprised to find out that we really are a young earth or old earth? nope.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:13 am to Pavoloco83
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You do realize Adam had a pet dinosaur?
duh.... it's in textbooks.
homeschool christian Mennonite textbooks, but still textbooks.
/nohateontBird
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:16 am to Pavoloco83
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Dear Grievous, if thats a picture of you, then strongly suggest you start on salads and shave the neck beard.
Derp.
No actually the picture of me is in my profile picture. I may or may not have been the killer in the west Memphis three case.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 8:57 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Why do atheists suck so much?
I'm not an atheist or christian, but it's probably has something to do w/ the christian religion killing off hundred's of thousands of people throughout history that didnt want to convert to their baby Hey Zeus(jesus). They went the exact opposite of christianity.
Christianity is a farce of a religion. They stole parts of their beliefs from other earlier religions, and omitted certain religious books b/c it didnt fit their agenda. Also primates and the great apes are so closely related to humans, but why don't christians try to save the apes? Surely they have a soul, just like all of creation.
The bible also talks about how wives should submit to their husbands, how to properly mark your slave, etc. The bible is pretty fricked up and the god of the bible is even more fricked up. Good thing that god doesn't exist.
Also, people as a whole want to believe in something, that there is more to life, which there is. But christians brainwash children at an early age (i'm proof of it), but some realize the b.s. and can think outside of the simply small figurative box. But then again, some people would rather believe that they can pray to a non existent entity and have their wishes and desires come true, instead of making it happen for yourself.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:05 pm to 3nOut
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Posted by 3nOut so it's pretty obvious that i'm a christian, but i do my best to not throw out logic and common sense. What we know of the first 5 books of the Bible, they were written by Moses in his time in the wilderness. Obviously that can't be entirely true because Moses dies in chapter 34 of Deuteronomy and wasn't there for Genesis or the first few chapters of Exodus Needless to say, to think everything was spot on in the handing down of the creation story to Moses is fairly naive. I'm not calling any of the Bible wrong or inaccurate, but if it comes out that how things were explained are a bit of lore I'll buy it. So do i think the creation story is probably a bit different than what we have in Genesis? most likely. Is it going to rock my faith if somebody comes out disproving one facet of creation? not a chance. Am i going to be surprised to find out that we really are a young earth or old earth? nope.
All of this was great and awesome but if you find out the earth is young, it would destroy everything we know about modern science. You shoul be shocked if we find out the earth is young. It would destroy the foundation of our modern world.
Posted on 9/3/14 at 9:06 pm to Grievous Angel
Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:23 am to 3nOut
That picture sums up both; how religion works on one side of the puppet strings to how it moves on the other.Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:35 am to dawgsjw
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The bible also talks about how wives should submit to their husbands, how to properly mark your slave, etc. The bible is pretty fricked up and the god of the bible is even more fricked up. Good thing that god doesn't exist.
I respect your opinion, but you've paraphrased several scriptures... The same verse that tell wives to be submissive to their husbands also tells the "husbands to love their wives also like Christ did the church", which was until the death in complete servant hood... Also I need a scripture on properly marking the slave... Like I said, I respect your beliefs, but if you're going to quote the bible or any other written material there needs to be an accurate account, not just the bit that fits your beliefs...
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 8:47 am
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