re: Does anyone here take suboxone for opiate addiction?

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I could explain examples but it depresses me to talk about it. So what do you guys think?

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I worked with Heroin addiction in New Orleans, Methadone Clinic. I wish you the best. You sound pretty sophisticated so you probably know you may find a support group helpful, folks who are committed to recovery also, so you can talk in DETAIL about what has happened with others who have their own secrets and shame.

Methadone addiction as you know is more difficult to kick than heroin, most don't make it off.

I know nothing about Suboxone but I do know you will need to completely, completely change associations with anyone or anything that is even remotely connected to your addiction.

I did something like this to quit smoking. Went from cigarettes to Nicotine lozenges, fully addicted to the lozenges and then began to cut back slowly till I could let them go.


Sleep, or lack of, is your biggest enemy. If you can get your normal sleep pattern back, Light - Deep and REM Sleep Cycle, without medication for sleep, your odds of making it are exponentially greater. I would be looking at some exotic exercise routines daily, along with careful food planning for meals as well as eating on a schedule and a strict bedtime and rise time. But that is just me.


You can do it. You can make it.

Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fricking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fricking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the frick you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fricking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fricked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.

Choose your future.

Choose life.

Actually, frick that, choose death. A slow, torturous death. (Had to say this or I'd be a hypocrite).

I saw something about ayahuasca on Netflix the other day. Interesting stuff. I think the show is called Drugs Inc.

it really just depends on your level of addiction and psychological dependance as to what you need to do IMO.

Skip suboxone and use kratom, than ween off kratom gradually over a few weeks and you will have little to no physical withdrawals.

email me at ray2kboaz@gmail.com i have been taking suboxone for awhile now..has saved my life..i was a HUGE drug addict..like on the needle and shite..it got bad before it got better..

trust me when i say its everywhere..people you would never think love to get high..lawyers, judges, police officers, etc..

one guy i know in marshall county likes to pull over people he knows is holding, and take their shite and let them go..

Dear Sleeping Tiger. Go frick your sister and stay out of topics on which you are clueless.

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it seems like you're playing Russian roulette every time.

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Nope. Heroin is losing at Russian Roulette 100 percent of the time. Once addicted, you are fricked.

I read about a study once where scientists hooked a wire up to some rats brains. The rats could push a button and the sensation would be direct voltage to the pleasure center of their brains (dopamine generated normally.) Rats immediately started pressing the button continually until they eventualy died. Gave up food, everything. No fricks given. If you do H a few times, you are headed there.

You can quit, but you have the memory of the pleasure button and you want it back bad. For the rest of your life. Drugs like Suboxone and others help fill the void left by the dopamine deficiency Heroin creates. However, they dont fix the problem.

Look at Phillip Seymour hoffman. off the needle for 20 years, then went back to it at the peak of his success. At the time of his death they found enough stash in his apartment for 70 more hits.

I mentioned this earlier, but google Russell Brand. Recovering heroin addict. he is quoted talking about watching a cellphone shot video of himself using. he said it was apalling to watch from the point of view of sobriety years later, but immediately felt jealous of his former self for being able to use.

This is very, very bad shite. The meds discussed here like Suboxone are helpful, but only with outside help and support and strong determination on a personal level.

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Skip suboxone and use kratom, than ween off kratom gradually over a few weeks and you will have little to no physical withdrawals.

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^This!!

KRATOM is the way to go! Suboxone will keep you hooked on it and if you dont do taper's right you will still get withdrawals. Withdrawals can last longer on subs and methadone than if you just quiet heroin straight up. I have a bunch of friends who are on subs, some for 2-3 years and no sign of completely quitting. Some of them used to tell me that they could up their dose and get high from it, so they was trading 1 drug for another. But subs can have longer withdrawals than just quitting heroin.

But look up kratom, it will do you good. Take kratom for up to like a month and then taper down from the kratom. Kratom withdrawals are very very minor and easy to manage compared to most other opiates. When quitting kratom you can smoke some weed or alcohol to help out. Kratom is also way cheaper than subs and is a natural plant with years and years of usage without major side effects.