re: Do you think the Civil War was started over slavery?

Where does your census record break down slaveholders by race?

Yes

You've got the Internet right in front of you, try googling something before you make an arse of yourself.

What kind of hokey accounting is this?
Lets take Alabama total pop964,201 total slave holders 33,730. For their to be 10% of the pop being slave holders 96,420 would have to hold slaves.

The Civil War was started over Confederate cannon firing upon Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, SC. If you are asking whether or not secession was caused by slavery, I would say yes.

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What kind of hokey accounting is this? Lets take Alabama total pop964,201 total slave holders 33,730. For their to be 10% of the pop being slave holders 96,420 would have to hold slaves. So using the pop that we have and the slave holders that ae listed what do we have say 7-10%.

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You can't seriously be this stupid.

You framed the arguement and your stats do not back your arguement and you call me names? When I was born my daddy owned a car I could not jump in it and drive it I could not sell it I had no control of the car so why would I be considered a car owner... same diff....

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Uh no. Some states just thought the fed gov had too much power in general and the states couldn't control everything like they wanted whether it was trade, slavery, taxes etc.

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This was particularly true in MO, a lot of the friction beyond the border war shite with KANSASS was due to federal intervention in MO's affairs.

I honestly think slavery was the majority cause of the Civil War. I'm a history minor and have taken multiple classes that cover this topic including History 333 which is the study of the Civil War.
Slavery was a state right, but when the nation began to expand out west and territories were created, heavy tension arose over the argument whether these territories should have discretion on the use of slavery. A majority of the political leaders in the North were industrialists and wanted these territories to turn into free states that used free labor and paid wages. (A key component to remember though is that Northerners were not opposed to slavery due to religious beliefs or morals, they just wanted to make their pockets fatter and control the economy)
On the other hand Southerners only knew how to run their economy and trade through slavery. They felt that territories should have the right to decide whether they be free or slave. This is where tension became very high and events such as Bleeding Kansas and the Missouri Compromise began to unfold and lead to the Civil War. The South was deeply rooted in a tradition of slavery and felt their way of life was threatened. (This was very unfair to African-Americans and in no way a justifiable reason to start a war, but unfortunately it was the way of life then)

after 10 pages, the dude above me is the only one to nail this arguement


this was about slavery but in particularly what "started the war" was the expansion out west.. i.e what states would be admitted to the union as free states and what states would be admitted as slave states.


southerns wanted them to be slave states, northerners wanted them to be free states


so what you got was the kansas / nebraska act and a bunch of southerners barnstormed kansas and voted for it to be a slave state after it was in fact a free state under the old missouri compromise.


abolitionists, such as John Brown, threw a hissy fit and started killing motherfrickers i.e bleeding kansas.


The entire Abraham Lincoln / Steven Douglas debates were about slavery. Lincoln won all of the northern states, Douglas won all of the south and lincon won the presidency and that was pretty much a wrap. at that point we were going to war.'


Then south Carolina succeed. Fort Sumter is in south carolina and they would not allow for the union to refill supplies at the base, and that is when the confederates fired the first shot and it was game on.


it was 10000% about slavery. i don't know why it's so chic to suggest the civil war was about anything other than slavery.


The south wanted the ability to expand west to the new territories and the north did not want that.


The north was pretty much okay.. well not okay.. but they tolerated slavery as long as it did not expand. If we could have avoided the civil war by allowing for the confederate to still hold slaves my black arse would be on a plantation today lol