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re: Do You Take Your Hat Off When Inside or Eating?

Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 11:51 am to
Always take them off on entering a home or an establishment.

It's hard-wired into me.

Then again, so is pulling out chairs for ladies, opening doors for ladies, standing when a lady enters or leaves a room (albeit just slightly rising from a chair if they are sitting down), giving a seat to ladies, standing to greet someone when approached while seated, etc.

This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:23 pm to
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standing to greet someone when approached while seated


Nothing worse than being taken with a surprise introduction while you are sitting down and the person goes for the handshake before you can get up. Then you are fumbling and not sure if it is ruder to delay the handshake.
Posted by Bamagirl15
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:28 pm to
I've always wondered why it's acceptable for a woman to wear her hat anywhere but not a man?!

Now the hand shake thing, that was instilled in my son by his dad from the time he was very little. You stand, look them straight in the eye with a firm grip.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Nothing worse than being taken with a surprise introduction while you are sitting down and the person goes for the handshake before you can get up. Then you are fumbling and not sure if it is ruder to delay the handshake.



Yeah-you should always give the seated party the ability to stand up rather than stick your hand in their face. If they stay seated and don't attempt to stand up (if you haven't asked them to stay seated-which you should under some circumstances), it's a tell on their manners, or just disrespectful.

Of course, there are also times you don't approach someone at a table and simply wave or acknowledge them in order to keep from disturbing their party or meal.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:42 pm to
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I've always wondered why it's acceptable for a woman to wear her hat anywhere but not a man?!


One of 3 things I can think of:

(1) Fashion-ladies' head coverings are fashion statements and complete their ensemble.

(2) Pragmatisim-removing and replacing a lady's head covering may mess up their hair.

(3) Tradition-it's a holdover from when most women wore head coverings in church-and if it is to be worn in church, then it can be worn anywhere.

Maybe a combination of the three.

Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:42 pm to
I don't wear a hat in Church, but I'll wear one everywhere else, including while I eat. I don't understand why people consider it rude or having bad manners. Wearing a hat doesn't effect anyone negatively, so folks should mind their own business.
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:44 pm to
The theory I have heard is that men's hat were functional and designed due to weather, working outside, etc. It was like wearing workboots or a coat. So when you come inside for any period of time you take it off. Women's hats often were more fashionable or religious in orientation so it was considered appropriate to leave them on when you weren't at home. Women covering their heads in public as a matter of modesty or religion has long been common practice so she would no more take her hat off in a store as she would on the street. This mentality still persists in the middle east.

This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by GnashRebel
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:51 pm to
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I don't wear a hat in Church, but I'll wear one everywhere else, including while I eat. I don't understand why people consider it rude or having bad manners. Wearing a hat doesn't effect anyone negatively, so folks should mind their own business.



It's just manner, bro. Nobody here is going to beat you down for it. Why don't I pick my nose (in public ), why don't we pee on the side of the road, why do I have to wear pants? Just the manners that developed over time and by submitting to them we are theoretically showing respect to the people around us.

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Wearing a hat doesn't effect anyone negatively


Neither does you not wearing one most of the time. You wouldn't happen to be bald?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:54 pm to
The only time I don't take my hat off while eating is if I'm eating at ballgame.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:19 pm to
No, I've just always worn a hat. Started when I was a kid and I'd go fishing with my grandfather. He'd say I either needed to wear sunglasses or a hat to shield my eyes. I hate sunglasses, so hats became just like putting on socks.
I have great manners, I just don't believe wearing a hat has anything to do with manners.

For what it's worth, I don't think men should wear flip flops. No one wants to see nasty arse men feet, but I don't expect people to stop wearing them just because I think it's wrong.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 1:55 pm to
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I just don't believe wearing a hat has anything to do with manners.


Why wont you wear a hat in church?
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:07 pm to
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Why wont you wear a hat in church?

The same reason I don't wear jeans and a tshirt. You're supposed to dress up for Church and not be casual.
Posted by Bamagirl15
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:20 pm to
Rebel and south made some good points about women. Eh, I'm not big on double standards.

Cobra, I agreed with you until that last statement. "God" don't care how you dress, he cares what's in the heart. I'm going to bust out singing "Signs"

I'm sticking with my first comment.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:24 pm to
I guess I should have said, that I feel like I should dress up for Church. It doesn't bother me if others don't, for some reason, I just feel like I should.
I know God doesn't care. Maybe, I just feel like I've screwed up so much, that I need to go that extra little bit.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:26 pm to
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The same reason I don't wear jeans and a tshirt. You're supposed to dress up for Church and not be casual.


So it sounds like you do believe there are manners involved with wearing a hat, you just dont think they are involved with eating/going inside and wearing a hat
Posted by Bamagirl15
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:30 pm to
Say two of those Hail Mary things and no beer for you lmao.

I'm Native American and Korean, so my customs are different.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:31 pm to
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So it sounds like you do believe there are manners involved with wearing a hat, you just dont think they are involved with eating/going inside and wearing a hat

Sounds like you are trying to put words in my mouth. Has nothing to do with manners, I don't dress casual for Church. Baseball cap doesn't go well with a tie and pants.
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Say two of those Hail Mary things and no beer for you lmao.

I don't drink beer, but I'll shoot the hell out of liquor
I wish that I liked beer.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Sounds like you are trying to put words in my mouth.


You essentially stated it.


Your manners involved with church is dressing nice and not wearing a hat.


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Has nothing to do with manners, I don't dress casual for Church.


These two sentences are a contradiction


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Baseball cap doesn't go well with a tie and pants.


unless you are insinuating that it is strictly fashion related and church requires a tie and pants
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 2:48 pm to
I just don't dress casual for Church. I also said that I don't care what other people wear. If people want to come to church in shorts and a tank top, I don't care. It's my personal preference to wear a tie and pants to church and if I thought any of my baseball caps looked good with a tie and pants then I would wear it.
It has nothing to do with manners.
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