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re: #BlackLivesMatter shutting down a major intersection in Louisville right now
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:06 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:06 pm to cokebottleag
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Michael berry had his producer go down to one of these protests and ask a bunch of people if they could name one of the 1000+ Blacks murdered by black gangbangers this year. Couldn't get a single name.
I find things like this counterproductive. For example imagine I responded:
"I wish they would have instead that reporter to donate their time in those neighborhoods were those murders where perpetrated, any of the activities Belle suggested would be great. It only shows that Michael Berry and his listeners care more about highlighting the ignorance of a few more than mitigating the real problems they are highlighting the ignorance of."
However I find that just as contrived and finger pointing as I do the protesters.
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:10 pm to TeLeFaWx
I think the larger issue is that protesting police brutality against the black community is just a very flimsy bandaid on some much larger issues within the black community. The reinforcement of a culture that prides itself on crime like running drugs, abusing women, and "not snitching" through multiple generations at this point is eating their community from within.
Not saying that police should be above reproach. But we should maybe be asking how these kids/young men got into a situation where a cop could take them out to begin with.
Not saying that police should be above reproach. But we should maybe be asking how these kids/young men got into a situation where a cop could take them out to begin with.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:20 pm to KSGamecock
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White silence is white consent.
Your damn right. That criminal in Ferguson needed to be shot and put down. He was a violent thief who attempted to murder a police officer when he went for his gun.
Not sure what is being protested there at all.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:21 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The reinforcement of a culture that prides itself on crime like running drugs, abusing women, and "not snitching" through multiple generations at this point is eating their community from within.
Troof and what the black community should be protesting about.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:24 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I think the larger issue is that protesting police brutality against the black community is just a very flimsy bandaid on some much larger issues within the black community.
Which I'm not disagreeing with, but that doesn't simultaneously invalidate complaints about it. Again my feeling towards this is that cops can be insecure pricks, and if race is a factor, it's simply because they feel more comfortable acting our their little man syndrome. Like that guy getting choked to death over cigarettes was just ridiculous. Seriously.
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The reinforcement of a culture that prides itself on crime like running drugs, abusing women, and "not snitching" through multiple generations at this point is eating their community from within.
That's a generalization. Does every member of the black community do this? No. Does it happen? Absolutely. Does the white community vilifying these protests and highlighting points like this further reinforce the "us vs them" mentality? I think it does.
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Not saying that police should be above reproach.
Absolutely they shouldn't. If statistics have suggested that complaints against police officers have gone down by up to 90% when cops wear cameras.
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But we should maybe be asking how these kids/young men got into a situation where a cop could take them out to begin with.
Possibly. I think that's a valid truth, and it holds up in a lot of scenarios. The Ferguson thing seems like he robbed a store and went after the kids gun. The guy in NYC was choked to death for selling cigarettes. That's not about a young man putting himself in any sort of scenario where life threatening police action should be assumed at any point.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Which I'm not disagreeing with, but that doesn't simultaneously invalidate complaints about it. Again my feeling towards this is that cops can be insecure pricks, and if race is a factor, it's simply because they feel more comfortable acting our their little man syndrome. Like that guy getting choked to death over cigarettes was just ridiculous. Seriously.
The problem is that right now, at least among the mainstream, the only complaint coming from the black community is finger pointing at everyone else (i.e. white cops) doing their community wrong. I haven't seen anything to legitimate address on a large scale the issues that are fostering the attitude that it's ok to gun down police officers in NYC because of a young black man killed by a cop in Ferguson.
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That's a generalization. Does every member of the black community do this? No. Does it happen? Absolutely. Does the white community vilifying these protests and highlighting points like this further reinforce the "us vs them" mentality? I think it does.
Vilifying? The protesters in Ferguson burned down their own community. The protesters here are committing an illegal act by obstructing traffic (and that could be a safety issue in that area as well). Facts aren't vilifying anything. And it absolutely feeds into stereotypes that the black community should be fighting against that devalues their complaints.
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Possibly. I think that's a valid truth, and it holds up in a lot of scenarios. The Ferguson thing seems like he robbed a store and went after the kids gun. The guy in NYC was choked to death for selling cigarettes. That's not about a young man putting himself in any sort of scenario where life threatening police action should be assumed at any point.
So the man that was choked in NYC didn't resist arrest?
Posted on 12/20/14 at 6:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The problem is that right now, at least among the mainstream, the only complaint coming from the black community is finger pointing at everyone else (i.e. white cops) doing their community wrong. I haven't seen anything to legitimate address on a large scale the issues that are fostering the attitude that it's ok to gun down police officers in NYC because of a young black man killed by a cop in Ferguson.
The problem is both sides are in an "us vs them" mentality, IMO.
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Vilifying? The protesters in Ferguson burned down their own community. The protesters here are committing an illegal act by obstructing traffic (and that could be a safety issue in that area as well). Facts aren't vilifying anything. And it absolutely feeds into stereotypes that the black community should be fighting against that devalues their complaints.
Yeah the Ferguson protests were stupid, and they should have gotten a permit to protest in your city. I think their problem is their methods, not their message. I think their message is misguided, but not invalid. I think you're invalidating their message for unfair reasons.
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So the man that was choked in NYC didn't resist arrest?
I think he was to an extent, I also think he was resisting getting choked to death, which is why that arresting method was excessive. I've seen the video and I can't justify the police officers use of force in that scenario. Maybe you can, and I'm not saying your opinion is any better or worse than mine. I think that was an example of little man syndrome police culture that baits people in order to use excessive force. There are plenty of drunk kids on spring break that I have personally witnessed resisting arrest. They were being violent and dangerous to themselves and others and the cops were doing their job. They didn't need to choke anyone in that scenario and they didn't need to choke this guy for selling illegal cigarettes. That's my opinion.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:47 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Troof and what the black community should be protesting about.
There is no black community.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
This shite is happening in the ATL too. Idiots shut down Lenox and Peachtree tonight. Major intersection around a ton of shopping.
Way to piss people off instead of making them sympathetic to your cause.
Way to piss people off instead of making them sympathetic to your cause.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 7:52 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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There is no black community.
Say there's no black community one more mothafrickin time!
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:28 pm to Stonehog
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Say there's no black community one more mothafrickin time!
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:29 pm to TbirdSpur2010
There's no black community.
Come at me chairforce.
Come at me chairforce.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:32 pm to KSGamecock
Nah, stonehog knows I say "there's no black community" all the time downstairs on the poliboard.
Depending on the thread, it can cause quite the kerfuffle
Depending on the thread, it can cause quite the kerfuffle
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:34 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Stop trying to show off those little biceps, Tbird. No one is intimidated.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:37 pm to CatFan81
Whatever color community responsible for NYC needs a good cleansing.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Nah, stonehog knows I say "there's no black community" all the time downstairs on the poliboard.
Depending on the thread, it can cause quite the kerfuffle
Dang. I'm an idiot, should have realized you were quoting SH. I think I've figured out most people's buttons here but haven't been able to pin yours yet.
Only thing I've seen get you a bit peeved was when ST said uncouth things about your wife but that's a shitbag move and isn't funny.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:39 pm to CatFan81
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Stop trying to show off those little biceps, Tbird. No one is intimidated.
Damn it, I've been trying to get my intimidation levels up
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:40 pm to KSGamecock
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Only thing I've seen get you a bit peeved was when ST said uncouth things about your wife but that's a shitbag move and isn't funny.
I thought I played that off well. Guess not
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:41 pm to Rebelgator
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Whatever color community responsible for NYC needs a good cleansing.
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The New York metropolitan area is home to the largest Jewish population in the world outside Israel. Until late 2005 or early 2006, when Israel surpassed the United States as having the largest Jewish population in the world, the New York metropolitan area had more Jews than Tel Aviv.
LINK
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needs a good cleansing
Nazi.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:43 pm to BluegrassBelle
fricking idiots.
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