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re: Black judge calls 3 yr old white toddler a racist. Guess why ....

Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by dead money
kyle, tx
Member since Feb 2014
1391 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:20 pm to
Hopefully that judge gets hit by a bus very very soon.

That is all.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37631 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:37 pm to
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Even in the ridiculously biased article the judge clearly explains he's more concerned that the parents' (lawyer) felt the need to pull the race card to increase the odds of a conviction.


Yeah, I mean like it is definitely a racist anti-black-man biased article .... lulz.

Oh, and all of these other lawyers and judges in Louisville are racist as well - no doubt.

(From the 2014 judicial review)

Judge Olu Stevens receives lowest overall remarks.

Note a huge percentage of lawyers in his district, and this actually dates back to 2010 a mere year after he took office ... a huge percentage of lawyers in his district believe he allows "personal feelings" to play into his judgments and they find it unworthy of his office.

But I mean, don't allow that to detract from your claim that the article, and I suppose all articles regarding his polemic against the little white girl ... don't let that detract from you claim of bias.

lulz

ETA: You're now officially on my dumbass fricktard list.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37631 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:46 pm to
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This guy needs to lose his job.


Yes he does ... and the sentiment is growing.

He's had to shut-down his twitter account and close his facebook account.

Local paper, The Courier-Journal, is being overwhelmed with letters against him. Not surprisingly, at least not to me, is that many many blacks are against what he did - non-supportive of his actions. (A good sign IMHO)

And now he is trying to justify giving the ARMED robbers probation basically by saying, well ....

Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:55 pm to
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He's had to shut-down his twitter account and close his facebook account. 


The dumb son of a bitch actually took to social media to defend his position on the case, and continued his assault on the child's parents. This cat is nothing more than a "social justice warrior ". His actions speak loudly.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36550 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 2:31 pm to
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Even in the ridiculously biased article the judge clearly explains he's more concerned that the parents' (lawyer) felt the need to pull the race card to increase the odds of a conviction.




It's not the judge's responsibility to lecture the parents of a three year old child who had a gun in her face, it's the judge's responsibility to do his fricking job, stop grandstanding and race-baiting, and lock up two scumbags who committed a violent crime with a firearm.

Anything else is bullshite.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 3:02 pm to
Was the country this racist during the Great Depression, sc?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90605 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 3:36 pm to
That toddler needs to check her privilege. She gets to grow up in nice 2 parent home. That black man was just taking his fair share since institutional racism doesn't allow him to earn it
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:41 pm to
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These cops killing black people is more an indication of insecure psychopaths with a need to exert dominance and power, but race plays a part. 


I agree, but I strongly suspect roid rage plays a bigger part than has been acknowledged. Me thinks they need mandatory drug testing...
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17318 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 4:52 pm to
Did you actually quote and respond to my post two separate times with a novel that basically reads your panties are in a huge wad over nothing?

This judge didn't pull the race card first. The lawyer of the parents did when they tried to use an emotional and ridiculous argument that the kid is now scared of all black men and therefore the lawyer deserves a conviction. Almost any judge would throw that shite out, and most would have strong words for the attorney who presented it. It has nothing to do with if the man actually committed the crime. You want racial double standards to stop coming up? Stop covering for a scumbag lawyer trying to further their career by using a child and the race card as a tool.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted by OzarksTiger
Missourah
Member since Jan 2014
118 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:06 pm to
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This guy needs to lose his job.



That would only happen if the races were reversed. He won't be punished though because he's black.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50465 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:40 pm to
The statements made by the lawyer made sense to establish the lasting impact of the crime on the affected victim (the child).

Don't be an idiot.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10568 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:42 pm to
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Stop covering for a scumbag lawyer trying to further their career by using a child and the race card as a tool.


That's BS. It was stated the family has black friends that frighten the kid now. Is that logical? Of course not, but we're talking about a 3 year old. It represents emotional distress and damage for the family that go beyond just armed robbery.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99034 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:45 pm to
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This judge didn't pull the race card first. The lawyer of the parents did when they tried to use an emotional and ridiculous argument that the kid is now scared of all black men and therefore the lawyer deserves a conviction. Almost any judge would throw that shite out, and most would have strong words for the attorney who presented it. It has nothing to do with if the man actually committed the crime. You want racial double standards to stop coming up? Stop covering for a scumbag lawyer trying to further their career by using a child and the race card as a tool.



I can't say what the lawyers intentions were but I can say with confidence that the "race card" was not the intention of the family's statements. It was to express the degree at which their child has been traumatized by two pieces of shite who robbed them at gunpoint in their own home. I have close family that knows the family well (I grew up in that end of town) and the daughter is absolutely suffering from PTSD as a result of the incident. Her fear of people that resemble her attackers is a pretty standard symptom of PTSD. It wasn't a white or black issue until the judge made it so. Would you have felt better if they said, "our daughter cannot be around men who look like the men who robbed us at gunpoint if they resemble them"?

And whether you want to play the "they played the race card first" line, a Judge should be ran off the bench for victim shaming which is exactly what he did. Anyone in defense of that is making a mockery of the court system in my hometown.

I'm ashamed that people in my area voted him into that position. I will also express my displeasure by word of mouth and by my ballot at election time.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 6:00 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99034 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 5:47 pm to
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That would only happen if the races were reversed. He won't be punished though because he's black.


The constituents in the area that helped vote him in are very aware. His best bet for re-election will be if no one runs against him and I can pretty well guarantee after this incident someone will.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 5:47 pm
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
Crimson Tide Fan Club
Member since Oct 2012
15574 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:34 pm to
All that article does is say that a guy with no priors and strong family backing / support (which judges often account for for first time offenders) got off after serving 1.5 years pre trial with good behavior.

I'm not an attorney but that sounds fairly reasonable.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68505 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:46 pm to
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As long as I continue to get my white benefits (business connections, bias from the police, ease in securing financial assets without scrutiny, good service at restaurants, etc.) I will refrain from bitching over these moral victories for the black community.

Sweet mother of God I hope this is sarcasm.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17271 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:55 pm to
There are places where you break in an occupied building at nite you will be shot. But not where those poeple live...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99034 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:18 pm to
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All that article does is say that a guy with no priors and strong family backing / support (which judges often account for for first time offenders) got off after serving 1.5 years pre trial with good behavior.

I'm not an attorney but that sounds fairly reasonable.




For a home invasion. This isn't I stole some chips from the corner store.

That all said, Judge Stevens pretty clearly violated a Code of Judicial Conduct not only with his statements in court but with his statements outside of them on Facebook and it is definitely an ethical issue at this point. The C-J article had some more info on that from multiple law professors:

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In an email, Ronald Rotunda, a law professor at Chapman University in Orange, Calif., and the author of a widely used course book on legal ethics, said Stevens violated the Code of Judicial Conduct, both by using the prestige of his office to further his personal interests and by commenting on a pending case on Facebook.

"The judge, acting like a pop psychologist, decides to attack the little girl and her parents," Rotunda said. "Then, after the judge … has a chance to cool down … he goes on Facebook and does it all over again. The judge should be a little more judicious."


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Jeffrey Shaman, who teaches at Chicago's DePaul University law school and once ran the Center for Judicial Conduct Organizations, said judicial criticism of victim impact statements could discourage victims from "participating in the criminal justice system and ensuring that their voices will be heard."


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Indiana University law professor Charles Geyh said that while it is not intrinsically wrong for a judge to criticize a victim — such as the instigator of a bar fight — given Stevens' emotional reaction in court and on Facebook, he arguably should have disqualified himself because his impartiality might be questioned.

"While the judge insisted that his judgment was unaffected by the victim statement, the issue is whether a reasonable observer would think likewise. Maybe not," Geyh said.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36550 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

All that article does is say that a guy with no priors and strong family backing / support (which judges often account for for first time offenders) got off after serving 1.5 years pre trial with good behavior.

I'm not an attorney but that sounds fairly reasonable.


Home invasion with a firearm? I don't know about Kentucky, but in Louisiana that's up to 30 years.
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