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re: Anyone following the Gold Cup?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:33 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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In Soccer, tournaments do not yield advantage. If it was a one shot game, yes, but after that you don't suffer from jet-lag, nor any of the other problems associated with one-shots.
It still helps us to play on more ideal fields and in front of friendly crowds.
Winning on the road in CONCACAF is very difficult due to shitty weather, shitty fields, hostile crowds, etc.
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Irrelevant in the Gold Cup
Both are run by CONCACAF.
Why would they stop being biased during WC qualofying?
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How did that Panamá game end? You understand the impact of favorable calls in soccer?
Yes, but the draw itself was one of the things we were talking about.
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Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:53 pm to pvilleguru
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Yes, but the draw itself was one of the things we were talking about.
This is what I'm talking about. Every time the conversation goes in a direction that you don't like -- you constrict the parameters of the conversation.
Hostile or friendly crowds don't impact the game in tournaments.
CONCACAF favors Mexico pretty heavily regardless of what game is being played -- but the worst and most glaring things happen in the Gold Cup.
The draw itself is a byproduct of the overarching argument that we're fricking having, privilege, is about corruption for the Mexican National Team. So don't tell me we're talking about the Draw itself when we've been talking about Mexican corruption.
Again, I see why most posters shy away from you.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 12:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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This is what I'm talking about. Every time the conversation goes in a direction that you don't like -- you constrict the parameters of the conversation.
Come the frick on. I replied to your post that said they always get the "luck" of the draw. When I provide some evidence that it isn't the case, you blame me for changing the parameters?
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:23 pm to pvilleguru
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ou blame me for changing the parameters?
At least you admit it? I don't know what to tell you. Mexico clearly gets some help from the refs (famously in 2015) and we have you saying ''naw bro, in these things that no one was talking about it's different''. It's a bizarre style you have.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Mexico clearly gets some help from the refs (famously in 2015)
They get help from the refs at times, though I'm not sure if it's due to bias or incompetence. There's not many good refs in North America. The ref in the 2015 Mexico/Panama match was Mark Geiger. He wasn't biased for Mexico or told by CONCACAF to favor Mexico. He's just not that good. Unfortunately, that still makes him one of the better refs in the region. We see him frick up calls in MLS every week.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:41 pm to pvilleguru
I also think that because they are always one of the 2 best teams in the region, they are able to capitalize on more of the bad calls than other teams are. That can help increase the perception that they get more favorable calls.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 1:50 pm to pvilleguru
I do think CONCACAF wants the US and Mexico to meet in the finals, which will bring in the maximum amount of money. Which is why they set it up for the two teams to be on opposite sides of the bracket to start the knockout rounds, but it's set up for the US and Mexico to have fairly even paths to the final. I also do not believe they instruct the referees to favor one team or the other.
Posted on 7/17/17 at 2:02 pm to pvilleguru
CONCACAF IS corrupt as frick, but I think it has more to do with TV deals, anything associated with Traffic Sports, etc.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:14 pm to pvilleguru
Sure dude.
''Mexicans agree on the corruption.''
''In fact, most of the world agrees on it.''
''pvilleguru's got the answer.''
I won't even respond after this. Prefer to converse with people who are a little more realistic.
America's playing next, Costa Rica didn't look impressive at all against Panamá.
''Mexicans agree on the corruption.''
''In fact, most of the world agrees on it.''
''pvilleguru's got the answer.''
I won't even respond after this. Prefer to converse with people who are a little more realistic.
America's playing next, Costa Rica didn't look impressive at all against Panamá.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:33 pm to pvilleguru
So sick of seeing Zardes play.
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:10 pm to pvilleguru
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So sick of seeing Zardes play.
There is absolutely no energy on the field. Gonzalez had a horrible night, too. Holy shite this was bad.
I thought I couldn't be more embarrassed to be up 2 - 0 before, it's like this team takes it as a challenge.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Jamaica vs. USA or Costa Rica if we have another bad game, but that should be the Finals.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:58 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Feel like I'm gonna cry. Finally. We look better than decent.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:41 pm to pvilleguru
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I do think CONCACAF wants the US and Mexico to meet in the finals, which will bring in the maximum amount of money. Which is why they set it up for the two teams to be on opposite sides of the bracket to start the knockout rounds, but it's set up for the US and Mexico to have fairly even paths to the final. I also do not believe they instruct the referees to favor one team or the other.
Fairly even!?
US had the other two top 4 teams in their bracket. Mexico had none. And speaking of paths, let's look at roads. You probably think those were "fairly even" also. US was Philadelphia to Dallas to Santa Clara. A total of 3,183 miles of travel. Mexico's was Phoenix to Pasadena to Santa Clara. a total of 1,063 miles of travel.
Hell, Mexico probably stayed between Pasadena and Santa Clara and wouldn't have had to move at all if they had made the final. Thank you Jamaica! Phuck you Mexico! Phuck you CONCACAF!
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:11 pm to ALA2262
Jamaica vs USA Wednesday should be close. Jamaica can win if we don't show up.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:53 pm to Herman Frisco
Jamaica's goalkeeper is LEGIT
Team Captain
Had some amazing saves against Mexico
Team Captain
Had some amazing saves against Mexico
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:24 am to ALA2262
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US had the other two top 4 teams in their bracket. Mexico had none.
US only had to play one of them.
Posted on 7/25/17 at 6:27 am to ALA2262
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US was Philadelphia to Dallas to Santa Clara. A total of 3,183 miles of travel
We're in the US. Let's not pretend like these are tough flights. We also have an extra day of rest than Jamaica.
Both flights are nonstop, less than 4 hours, and on a private plane. Each seat is basically a La-Z-Boy.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 6:54 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:26 am to pvilleguru
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Let's not pretend like these are tough flights
You sure made it sound like it was unbelievably difficult for other teams to be playing in the US doing the exact same thing.
It's soccer, man. Crowd noise doesn't affect the game and traveling doesn't absolutely maul your game like Football.
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We also have an extra day of rest than Jamaica.
The price of being king.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:28 am to pvilleguru
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US only had to play one of them.
Is that still more than zero? And we played Panamá beforehand. Mexico should have been playing them instead of Jamaica or Canada again (but it looked like it didn't matter). We were in a harder bracket, and Mexico drew a third place finisher when they shouldn't have.
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