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American Left Totally Cool With Communism.

Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:27 pm
Interesting how the Left, which expresses so much outrage about Confederate symbols, or Nazi symbols, generally regards Communist symbols and fashion as "totally cool".

Not surprising, considering they are Marxist at heart.

This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98918 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:29 pm to
I'm fairly liberal and want to shiv someone everytime I see them wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt.

I'm convinced these are the same people who said "Who?" when people complained about Alexander Hamilton being removed from the $10 bill.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:31 pm to
Well, Liberal and Leftist aren't actually compatible ideologies. Liberals are rare. Leftists who call themselves liberals are much more common these days.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:34 pm to
Today's conservative right is totally cool with shitting in the face of the 33,000 soldiers who died in Korea. Still supporting invading Iraq while these psychos went nuclear, good choice... would do again.
Posted by bayou2003
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Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Today's conservative right is totally cool with shitting in the face of the 33,000 soldiers who died in Korea.


Explain?? Maybe I'm misreading what you said.
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
3373 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:


Explain?? Maybe I'm misreading what you said.


The year is 2003... 2 "axis of evil" countries... one has not developed a WMD in over a decade, the other is actively developing WMDs. One actively threatens all, the other says f you to inspectors. We made the wrong choice in who to pursue militarily, if anybody. Letting a foe of the last 50 years get that weapon is an insult to all who previously died there.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

The year is 2003... 2 "axis of evil" countries... one has not developed a WMD in over a decade, the other is actively developing WMDs. One actively threatens all, the other says f you to inspectors. We made the wrong choice in who to pursue militarily, if anybody. Letting a foe of the last 50 years get that weapon is an insult to all who previously died there.


Ok I see what you are saying. Just confused me when you said conservative right. I think both political parties are to blame for that.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:03 pm to
I see what you're saying, but you have to handle the three rogue countries on a case-by-case basis. Iraq was invadible because two-thirds of its population supported getting rid of Saddam. Iran isn't invadible because their population fully supports the ruling theocracy--just gotta use sanctions with them and wait until they wilt. North Korea has China as an ally, so if you invade them, you get the Red Army as an opponent too--gotta do the trilateral negotiations thing with them and pressure China to hold them back.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24942 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Today's conservative right


Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) there was a majority of democrats (I.E. the left) that voted for the war as well.

Funny how the stupid fricking liberals tend to forget that fact.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:21 pm to
In theory Communism is the greatest form of government. In practice, not so much.

Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4437 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) there was a majority of democrats (I.E. the left) that voted for the war as well. Funny how the stupid fricking liberals tend to forget that fact.


Meh, they all voted for something based off false intel so you can't really get mad about it
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:58 pm to
China has had nukes for a long, long time and they are allied with North Korea so invading NK risked nuclear war.

More importantly though, the South Koreans had absolutely no interest in going to war with NK, if anything they want better relations. Without South Korea's full support any war with NK is a non starter. Why not? Well, Seoul is 35 miles from the DMZ and has nearly 25 million people in its metro area. It's incredibly densely populated. If NK decided to mount an all out air strike or shoot even conventional weapons at Seoul they would kill millions in minutes and there is no real way to stop them.

So unless you think the US should take over South Korea and then use it as a base to take over NK (and kill a ridiculous amount of civilians in the process) that's off the table. Oh, and realize that the Chinese would then go to war with the US in all probability and WWIII would essentially begin.

Besides all of that, isn't NK a leftist utopia that embraces communism fully?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:07 pm to
What you're saying is pure shite, on many accounts.

1. Che is a symbol of rebellion, not communism.

2. Che broke away from Sovietism. He was outspoken against the Soviets, which is why Castro banned him to the Congo, which he barely escaped, and then sent him to Bolivia, which is where he was killed. He was purposely pushed out of the political scene because he didn't like communism. He initially liked it because it was a ready made ideology to fight capitalism.

3. Che had a cake walk of a life ahead of him, he was a doctor, living amid the affluent class in Argentina. After an enlightening motorcycle trip around S America he saw what capitalism was doing to his continent.

4. Che would shake the hands and hug leapers when no one else would. He would play with them and treat them like real human beings.

5. Che wouldn't accept political gifts and chose public transportation instead of chauffeurs.

6. Che believed in labor. He chose hard labor on his days off because he believed it was essential to being a good man.

7. Che would fight on the front line of battle, and then play doctor to the men he had just fought.

8. The man put in charge of killing Che, who tracked him for years, couldn't pull the trigger in the end. He fell in love with Che, just as everyone did. He had to pay someone else to do it for him.

9. He was the most true warrior poet, which is why he's adored by the entire world.

10. Yes, wearing his face on a tshirt is dumb.

11. You're clueless.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:11 pm to
I've found that most people who oppose Communism have absolutely no idea what it actually is -- anyone who thinks that Russia, Mao, Che, all of the other regimes are in any way Communist (aside from the name) probably think North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

I've found that most people who oppose Communism have absolutely no idea what it actually is


I find most who follow any political ideology have little clue what it is vs what media and world governments tell us it is.
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