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American Left Totally Cool With Communism.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:27 pm
Interesting how the Left, which expresses so much outrage about Confederate symbols, or Nazi symbols, generally regards Communist symbols and fashion as "totally cool".
Not surprising, considering they are Marxist at heart.
Not surprising, considering they are Marxist at heart.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:29 pm to wmr
I'm fairly liberal and want to shiv someone everytime I see them wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt.
I'm convinced these are the same people who said "Who?" when people complained about Alexander Hamilton being removed from the $10 bill.
I'm convinced these are the same people who said "Who?" when people complained about Alexander Hamilton being removed from the $10 bill.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:31 pm to BluegrassBelle
Well, Liberal and Leftist aren't actually compatible ideologies. Liberals are rare. Leftists who call themselves liberals are much more common these days.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:34 pm to wmr
Today's conservative right is totally cool with shitting in the face of the 33,000 soldiers who died in Korea. Still supporting invading Iraq while these psychos went nuclear, good choice... would do again.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:37 pm to ehole
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Today's conservative right is totally cool with shitting in the face of the 33,000 soldiers who died in Korea.
Explain?? Maybe I'm misreading what you said.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:43 pm to bayou2003
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Explain?? Maybe I'm misreading what you said.
The year is 2003... 2 "axis of evil" countries... one has not developed a WMD in over a decade, the other is actively developing WMDs. One actively threatens all, the other says f you to inspectors. We made the wrong choice in who to pursue militarily, if anybody. Letting a foe of the last 50 years get that weapon is an insult to all who previously died there.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 1:49 pm to ehole
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The year is 2003... 2 "axis of evil" countries... one has not developed a WMD in over a decade, the other is actively developing WMDs. One actively threatens all, the other says f you to inspectors. We made the wrong choice in who to pursue militarily, if anybody. Letting a foe of the last 50 years get that weapon is an insult to all who previously died there.
Ok I see what you are saying. Just confused me when you said conservative right. I think both political parties are to blame for that.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:03 pm to ehole
I see what you're saying, but you have to handle the three rogue countries on a case-by-case basis. Iraq was invadible because two-thirds of its population supported getting rid of Saddam. Iran isn't invadible because their population fully supports the ruling theocracy--just gotta use sanctions with them and wait until they wilt. North Korea has China as an ally, so if you invade them, you get the Red Army as an opponent too--gotta do the trilateral negotiations thing with them and pressure China to hold them back.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:03 pm to ehole
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Today's conservative right
Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) there was a majority of democrats (I.E. the left) that voted for the war as well.
Funny how the stupid fricking liberals tend to forget that fact.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:21 pm to wmr
In theory Communism is the greatest form of government. In practice, not so much.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 2:24 pm to bbvdd
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Unless I'm mistaken (I'm not) there was a majority of democrats (I.E. the left) that voted for the war as well. Funny how the stupid fricking liberals tend to forget that fact.
Meh, they all voted for something based off false intel so you can't really get mad about it
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:58 pm to ehole
China has had nukes for a long, long time and they are allied with North Korea so invading NK risked nuclear war.
More importantly though, the South Koreans had absolutely no interest in going to war with NK, if anything they want better relations. Without South Korea's full support any war with NK is a non starter. Why not? Well, Seoul is 35 miles from the DMZ and has nearly 25 million people in its metro area. It's incredibly densely populated. If NK decided to mount an all out air strike or shoot even conventional weapons at Seoul they would kill millions in minutes and there is no real way to stop them.
So unless you think the US should take over South Korea and then use it as a base to take over NK (and kill a ridiculous amount of civilians in the process) that's off the table. Oh, and realize that the Chinese would then go to war with the US in all probability and WWIII would essentially begin.
Besides all of that, isn't NK a leftist utopia that embraces communism fully?
More importantly though, the South Koreans had absolutely no interest in going to war with NK, if anything they want better relations. Without South Korea's full support any war with NK is a non starter. Why not? Well, Seoul is 35 miles from the DMZ and has nearly 25 million people in its metro area. It's incredibly densely populated. If NK decided to mount an all out air strike or shoot even conventional weapons at Seoul they would kill millions in minutes and there is no real way to stop them.
So unless you think the US should take over South Korea and then use it as a base to take over NK (and kill a ridiculous amount of civilians in the process) that's off the table. Oh, and realize that the Chinese would then go to war with the US in all probability and WWIII would essentially begin.
Besides all of that, isn't NK a leftist utopia that embraces communism fully?
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:07 pm to wmr
What you're saying is pure shite, on many accounts.
1. Che is a symbol of rebellion, not communism.
2. Che broke away from Sovietism. He was outspoken against the Soviets, which is why Castro banned him to the Congo, which he barely escaped, and then sent him to Bolivia, which is where he was killed. He was purposely pushed out of the political scene because he didn't like communism. He initially liked it because it was a ready made ideology to fight capitalism.
3. Che had a cake walk of a life ahead of him, he was a doctor, living amid the affluent class in Argentina. After an enlightening motorcycle trip around S America he saw what capitalism was doing to his continent.
4. Che would shake the hands and hug leapers when no one else would. He would play with them and treat them like real human beings.
5. Che wouldn't accept political gifts and chose public transportation instead of chauffeurs.
6. Che believed in labor. He chose hard labor on his days off because he believed it was essential to being a good man.
7. Che would fight on the front line of battle, and then play doctor to the men he had just fought.
8. The man put in charge of killing Che, who tracked him for years, couldn't pull the trigger in the end. He fell in love with Che, just as everyone did. He had to pay someone else to do it for him.
9. He was the most true warrior poet, which is why he's adored by the entire world.
10. Yes, wearing his face on a tshirt is dumb.
11. You're clueless.
1. Che is a symbol of rebellion, not communism.
2. Che broke away from Sovietism. He was outspoken against the Soviets, which is why Castro banned him to the Congo, which he barely escaped, and then sent him to Bolivia, which is where he was killed. He was purposely pushed out of the political scene because he didn't like communism. He initially liked it because it was a ready made ideology to fight capitalism.
3. Che had a cake walk of a life ahead of him, he was a doctor, living amid the affluent class in Argentina. After an enlightening motorcycle trip around S America he saw what capitalism was doing to his continent.
4. Che would shake the hands and hug leapers when no one else would. He would play with them and treat them like real human beings.
5. Che wouldn't accept political gifts and chose public transportation instead of chauffeurs.
6. Che believed in labor. He chose hard labor on his days off because he believed it was essential to being a good man.
7. Che would fight on the front line of battle, and then play doctor to the men he had just fought.
8. The man put in charge of killing Che, who tracked him for years, couldn't pull the trigger in the end. He fell in love with Che, just as everyone did. He had to pay someone else to do it for him.
9. He was the most true warrior poet, which is why he's adored by the entire world.
10. Yes, wearing his face on a tshirt is dumb.
11. You're clueless.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:11 pm to wmr
I've found that most people who oppose Communism have absolutely no idea what it actually is -- anyone who thinks that Russia, Mao, Che, all of the other regimes are in any way Communist (aside from the name) probably think North Korea is a Democratic Republic.
Posted on 6/23/15 at 5:19 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I've found that most people who oppose Communism have absolutely no idea what it actually is
I find most who follow any political ideology have little clue what it is vs what media and world governments tell us it is.
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