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re: Affirmative Action

Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:21 pm to
I went to Memphis. I'm not exaggerating. This was quite some time ago though.
Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:26 pm to
I think affirmative action is more about social justice than it is about attempting to impose diversity. It tries to even the playing field because some believe if there's a proverbial finish line of success, some people receive a head start while others have hurdles placed in their lane.

I would be in favor of income-based affirmative action in higher education. To me one's advantages and privileges (or conversely obstacles and hindrances) are determined by one's SES more than by one's race.

As far as the Supreme Court's decision is concerned, I have no opinion. I'm not a Con Law expert.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:52 pm to
We should apply Affirmative Action to everything, sports included. I want to see just as many Asians playing basketball as I do blacks.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:33 pm to
Don't care.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:56 pm to
Can we end Pell Grants, too? Please?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119111 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:11 pm to
I think affirmative action was a good idea when it was enacted, but has long since lost it's need to exist.
Posted by weedGOKU666
THE 'COLA
Member since Jan 2013
3736 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

I would be in favor of income-based affirmative action in higher education. To me one's advantages and privileges (or conversely obstacles and hindrances) are determined by one's SES more than by one's race.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5886 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 8:30 am to
quote:

I want my kids to be in a diverse school which is why I'm moving my child out of her 99.99% white private school next year into a municipal school.



What are the demographics like at the municipal school? Is there a remotely comparable level of success? There are plenty of areas throughout the country where this would be academic/social suicide for your child.

Plainly and simply, Sotomayor is wrong. I would be embarrassed if I publicly admitted that the only reason I had gained acceptance to the schools I went and had been qualified for the jobs that I had was because of my gender or race.

Content of character my arse.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:09 am to
Correct me if I'm wrong but, the ruling didn't decide if AA would be kept or discarded but who could decide when and where it's applied.

UM is not changing its policy if I understood correctly.
Posted by UMTigerRebel
Member since Feb 2013
9819 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

What are the demographics like at the municipal school? Is there a remotely comparable level of success? There are plenty of areas throughout the country where this would be academic/social suicide for your child.

I'm sending her to a good school. It's rated 10 out of 10. I've lived in this area long enough to know which schools are successful.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, the ruling didn't decide if AA would be kept or discarded but who could decide when and where it's applied.

UM is not changing its policy if I understood correctly.


You're correct, Jefferson. That is what was so nutty about Sotomayor's and Ginsbirg's opinions. They essentially view it as unconstitutional for a legislature to set a policy about affirmative action. One of the wackier opinions I've seen from the court in my lifetime. Fortunately they were the only 2 to rule that way.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:12 am to
I remember applying for a particular state scholarship in Arkansas, and the minimum GPAs and ACT requirements were graded according to race.

Whites & Asians needed highest.

Hispanics next.

AA lowest.

I will always remember that, and I will always sort of resent it, too. #thestruggle
This post was edited on 4/23/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69902 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I remember applying for a particular state scholarship in Arkansas, and the minimum GPAs and ACT requirements were graded according to race. 

Whites & Asians needed highest. 

Hispanics next. 

AA lowest. 

I will always remember that, and I will always sort of resent it, too. #thestruggle





The soft bigotry of low expectations #'sarefrickingGay
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

“But neither does it give the majority free rein to erect selective barriers against racial minorities.”

This quote from Sotomayor is indicative of the erosion of logic in our post-postmodern society. Making a legislative decision that there is a level playing field for all races is defined by an Ivy-league educated Supreme Court Justice as a "barrier against racial minorities."

Up is down. Freedom is slavery.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 10:44 am to
#sayswhodickface


Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:37 am to
Are you implying that someone who supports affirmative action would support or be a part of a 1984-like government?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 11:40 am to
I'm saying that the use of language in Sotomayor's statement is very 1984ish. Support of affirmative action can be argued. It cannot be argued in a logical fashion using the language she used.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
What do you expect from Sotomayor? She only got her job because she is Latina. She IS an Affirmative Action hire. frick that slag.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
Very succinct.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 4/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
Somewhat related pic...where's the AA for Protestants?

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