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We shouldn't fire HCKA... this year
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:20 pm
Hear me out. The sanctions leveled against the program this week were self imposed. The NCAA may not be satisfied with those sanctions. We also may not know when the NCAA will decide what to do.
We had a hard enough time finding good candidates last time around. How are we going to hire a coach with possible sanctions hanging over the program?
I say keep KA another year and if he turns it around then great, but if not then he gets shown the door. Then the program will be at least a year into whatever sanctions there may be and we'll an experienced team that just needs coaching.
We had a hard enough time finding good candidates last time around. How are we going to hire a coach with possible sanctions hanging over the program?
I say keep KA another year and if he turns it around then great, but if not then he gets shown the door. Then the program will be at least a year into whatever sanctions there may be and we'll an experienced team that just needs coaching.
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Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:31 pm to URHatinIt
This year, next year, not sure it matters that much. It's such a project at this point. You make a good point about the sanctions hanging over our head; but it's 1 scholarship at this point. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:33 pm to URHatinIt
I'm pretending that he's getting another year regardless just to keep from getting my hopes up.
My ultimate fear is that we improve just enough to keep him around 7 or 8 years while hovering around .500.
My ultimate fear is that we improve just enough to keep him around 7 or 8 years while hovering around .500.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:49 pm to the808bass
There are pros and cons but KA is such a horrible coach that he might bury the program so bad it will take years to get to the NIT.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 9:53 pm to ZackAttackTiger
We didn't have trouble finding good candidates. We had trouble pulling the trigger on a good candidate. There were guys there. Alden didn't pull the trigger, which now sounds like it was because he knew of the upcoming sanctions and did not want to screw over a decent head coach. HCKA should be fired. I wanted to give him a chance. But there has been 0 improvement. I was not asking for an elite 8 this year or even a sweet 16. But close games. 15-18 wins. But this team keeps getting blown out.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:00 pm to Mizzou23
I'm pretty much the same way. He just doesn't seem to care and I think we are even worse this year.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:02 pm to URHatinIt
I completely expect KA to be hear next year. That might be just as well. Not just that but then the kool aid drinkers can use it all as yet another excuse to give KA year 4.
I will continue to watch more women's basketball and wrestling.
I will continue to watch more women's basketball and wrestling.
Posted on 1/16/16 at 10:45 pm to reedus23
The women's coach got until her 5th year to break the .500 mark. Now is good in year 6.
Based on recruiting rankings KA has recruited better than MA. MA had 2 4 stars his entire year here.
I still need to see how the team finishes the year to decide if he should get another year.
Based on recruiting rankings KA has recruited better than MA. MA had 2 4 stars his entire year here.
I still need to see how the team finishes the year to decide if he should get another year.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:58 am to wubilli
The leash is a lot longer for a women's BB coach than it is for a men's BB coach. Plus our women at least act like they care and show improvement.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:19 am to semotruman
quote:My point is it could get worse.
You make a good point about the sanctions hanging over our head; but it's 1 scholarship at this point. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:26 am to Mizzou23
quote:Howland is a great recruiter and coach but he absolutely lost control at UCLA, and they starting losing a lot his last 4 seasons there. Not saying hiring KA was the right decision, but not hiring BH was the right decision.
We didn't have trouble finding good candidates. We had trouble pulling the trigger on a good candidate. There were guys there. Alden didn't pull the trigger, which now sounds like it was because he knew of the upcoming sanctions and did not want to screw over a decent head coach.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:26 am to Mizzou23
quote:Howland is a great recruiter and coach but he absolutely lost control at UCLA, and they starting losing a lot his last 4 seasons there. Not saying hiring KA was the right decision, but not hiring BH was the right decision.
We didn't have trouble finding good candidates. We had trouble pulling the trigger on a good candidate. There were guys there. Alden didn't pull the trigger, which now sounds like it was because he knew of the upcoming sanctions and did not want to screw over a decent head coach.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:15 am to URHatinIt
He'll be here another year. The investigation cements it.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 11:51 am to wubilli
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The women's coach got until her 5th year to break the .500 mark. Now is good in year 6.
We've been down this road before. KA inherited a thoroughbred compared to what Pingeton inherited. Despite that, Pingeton still won more games in year 1 than KA came close to sniffing. Unfortunate for KA, women's hoops isn't a revenue sport (though now it might be more so than the mens) and his is. That buys leniency.
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Based on recruiting rankings KA has recruited better than MA. MA had 2 4 stars his entire year here.
If you believe that then you must believe that MA was shite tons better at coaching than KA because KA isn't getting shite out of his stellar recruiting classes.
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I still need to see how the team finishes the year to decide if he should get another year.
Whether he should or not, he will be back again. He will do just well enough to give the kool aid drinkers hope. That might mean 11 wins. Might mean 12. I doubt it but that wouldn't surprise me. And that sad part is that KA has taken us to such lows that 12 wins would be seen as an achievement.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:14 pm to reedus23
quote:MA lost most of last years team and started over this season with a bunch of 2 stars. And they beat us by like a hundred.
If you believe that then you must believe that MA was shite tons better at coaching than KA
Posted on 1/17/16 at 12:56 pm to reedus23
MA coached a style that didn't require great talent. He was also really good at developing players.
I actually think that the current Mizzou roster could do well in the MA system. It deep, but not super talented, and undersized.
One thing that they don't do is play hard every possession. Walton only played 9 minutes because he had 2 defensive possessions that were zero effort possessions, resulting in his man getting easy shots.
I actually think that the current Mizzou roster could do well in the MA system. It deep, but not super talented, and undersized.
One thing that they don't do is play hard every possession. Walton only played 9 minutes because he had 2 defensive possessions that were zero effort possessions, resulting in his man getting easy shots.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 3:04 pm to wubilli
As an outsider... I don't think this is an absolutely horrible Mizzou team. They aren't great. Neither are my Hogs though.
They are poorly coached. Its not just basic mistakes, though y'all have them, its in game coaching decisions.
When Arkansas started pulling away from Mizzou in the last game we played I kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting, for KA to step in, call a time out and try to settle down his team. Instead he waited until a TV timeout when the game had already gotten away from his squad.
Mizzou was only down by 7 in the second half. Arkansas gets hot call a time out, TV timeouts be damned, and try to break the momentum. Your coach sat there like a turd floating in a swimming pool.
Missouri does not have a great group of players right now. We can all see that. But your head coach isn't able to get the best out of what he has, much less build something for future years. Yes, you are facing sanctions, but Missouri still can put a very solid program together with the right coach.
They are poorly coached. Its not just basic mistakes, though y'all have them, its in game coaching decisions.
When Arkansas started pulling away from Mizzou in the last game we played I kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting, for KA to step in, call a time out and try to settle down his team. Instead he waited until a TV timeout when the game had already gotten away from his squad.
Mizzou was only down by 7 in the second half. Arkansas gets hot call a time out, TV timeouts be damned, and try to break the momentum. Your coach sat there like a turd floating in a swimming pool.
Missouri does not have a great group of players right now. We can all see that. But your head coach isn't able to get the best out of what he has, much less build something for future years. Yes, you are facing sanctions, but Missouri still can put a very solid program together with the right coach.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 5:45 pm to Arksulli
They are pretty horrible. You don't drop league games by over 30 at home to a team that might not even make the NIT. We are awful. I am not sure this team isn't worse than last years. At least they could use the excuse we had a new coach last year.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:23 pm to URHatinIt
KA should have never been let in the door.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:11 am to everytrueson
Nope it is going to take us several years to recover from this disaster.
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