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re: The next Mizzou Prez

Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
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First thing I'd do is abolish all race based, gender, "relationship" type organizations.....under the notion of inclusiveness.


Here are just the black organizations:

quote:

The Legion of Black Collegians

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc.

Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.

Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Inc.

Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc.

Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.

Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc.

Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc.

Iota Phi Theta Fraternity, Inc.

Student Organizations

Alpha Omega Theta (Christian Fraternity)

Alpha Theta Omega (Christian Sorority)

African Students Association

Association of Black Graduate and Professional Students

Black Business Students Association

Black Law Students Association

Diversity in Nursing Association

Freestyle Your Expression Dance Team (F.Y.E)

IMPACT

Legions of Black Collegians Gospel Choir

Main Attraction Dance Team

Minorities in Agriculture, Natural Resources and Related Sciences

Minority Association of Pre Health Students

Mizzou Black Men’s Initiative

Mizzou Black Women’s Initiative

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

National Association of Black Accountants

National Association of Black Journalist

National Society of Black Engineers

Outer Limits Dance Team

Target H.O.P.E. – University of Missouri Chapter

The BLACKout


Any chance these types of exclusionary organizations are contributing to the problems?
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Middleton won't stick around for too long, he was retiring this fall before all this came along.

I hope not. In my very limited interactions with him, I found him arrogant and very, very liberal. I don't think he's what's needed right now. The protesters will love him. I can't imagine him being popular with the general student population. I don't remember him as warm and friendly.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:25 pm to
If Middleton was a student right now he'd have been on the Quad, perhaps even hunger striking.

Take a look at TB, Middleton was making videos with Butler on racial issues very recently.

LINK

lol, WAM
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:29 pm to
FML
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:31 pm to
It's actually kind of funny now. I admire the guy.

If he was pulling the strings he really wasted his life at Mizzou, he could have been a senator or governor with that type of skill.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:58 pm to
Oh, that's just awesome. Fantastic. Just what we need leading the University system right now. Un-freaking-believeable.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:04 pm to
Plus, look at the shitty tie dimple. Can we really trust a guy that can't tie a knot that will give him a solid dimple?
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:10 pm to
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Are they calling all these people liars? That’s as bad as calling all of them racist.


Oh boy.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:45 am to
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Remote Controlled



You were pretty gung ho on this from Jump Street. I know you're kind of libby, and I'm not too far from there myself, but what turned you?

The danger in this was visible from square one, what turned you?

ETA: If you don't mind me asking.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 1:45 am
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:13 am to
Yeah, I took this for face value right off the bat. As in, if they are willing to do all this there must be a problem. Etc.

After letting this digest for a while, I started to see what it really was.

I put all the pieces together. From the fact that CS1950 was started after a loss of health benefits, the rift between faculty and leadership before this, the faculty dealing with the media after Wolfe resigned, the lies about KKK on campus, etc.

The final straw for me was learning that hunger strike was worth $20 MIL and trying to tell us that the struggle is real. Then setting up a black only safe space so they can "decompress and be real". They essentially harbored the very environment they claimed they were trying to rid the world of.

Even someone who was trying to be as open minded as possible about all of this can't deny that its been nothing but an academic coup d'état disguised under the guise of social activism.

Not only have I changed my view on this particular event, but my entire purview is starting to change.

I imagined how I would feel if this same thing was allowed to happen on a larger stage, and I found that I didn't like that idea at all.

This feels like a dress rehearsal for something else. They have my attention.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13893 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:34 am to
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I imagined how I would feel if this same thing was allowed to happen on a larger stage, and I found that I didn't like that idea at all.



What if I told you this wasn't the beginning, but step 10,170 in a complete process?

We're not saying we're smarter than you for getting here before you, just glad you're on board now.

What's right and politics are two different things that intertwine. The political will fight over the right and pit each other against the other, but right is always right. This was never right.

You don't have to change your mind about everything else, just dig deeper than the average a-hole will to see the truth.

This seems nerdier than it is. Welcome to not being blinded by bullshite.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:46 am to
Yeah, I'm dealing with some serious cognitive dissonance after all of this.

I think I was so worried about what the extremists on the other side were up to, I failed to see what the extremists on my side were up to right under my nose.

Lots of the shite that I laughed off before is starting to make sense now.

Strange days indeed.

This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 2:47 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:43 am to
quote:

Here are just the black organizations:

Hole
E
shite

I'd get rid of the white ones, gay ones, Greek ones, Hispanic ones, Martian ones, communist ones...all of them that are based on race, etc.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:05 pm to
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The danger in this was visible from square one, what turned you?

I'm kinda of libby too, on social issues. But something just smelled funny to me on this from jump. All this uproar over 2 racial slurs and a poopsticka? Because really, that's all they claimed. And calling it "Systematic and Systemic" - I don't think those words mean what they think they mean.

Butler's rhetoric from the beginning was very much BLM, which I find horribly racist and the opposite of equal. And it happened SO fast - once they got to the football team and manipulated them...it was less than 48 hours before the Chancellor and President both resigned. That's crazy. I really didn't think they would cave, at least that fast. That's when I started to wonder if it could be some kind of coup. And my next step was that this is a dry run for Butler and BLM, training for what they want to do on a large scale across the country.

As more and more info has come out, and we see the lied exposed, and the videos...it's now obvious. It was a pure-and-simple power grab, a way to get rid of unpopular leaders cloaked in racism. And everyone is afraid of that label.

Now it's just farcical. I'm embarrassed for Mizzou. But I'm not convinced, yet, that the long-term damage will be extensive. I think this is the beginning of a large, well organized plan. We may be ground zero, but it will likely get worse in other places.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

As more and more info has come out, and we see the lied exposed, and the videos...it's now obvious. It was a pure-and-simple power grab, a way to get rid of unpopular leaders cloaked in racism. And everyone is afraid of that label.


This.

I'm a far righty. When it first happened, I said okay...let's hear details about the problems. Two N-words and a swastika (anti-Semitic issue). Laughable.

Then I read their demands. Equally laughable or even more so.

Folks, those two items were enough for me to recognize that this "protest" does not pass the "smell test". Now the truth comes out. We're lucky that the truth developed within a week. What we have here are young anarchist in training, taught by other anarchists and lead by poor, weak administrators.

Racism is real and everywhere.

Always question the facts first regardless of the left or right. I was right this time early. Next time I'll be wrong early.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 11/13/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

organized plan. We may be ground zero, but it will likely get worse in other places.

These jag offs had no power but the power that was given to them. The Administration bent over and put its own head in the guillotine. If the University can extricate itself from the mess in which it placed itself, that remains to be seen.
Posted by panzerfahre
Kirksville, Mo
Member since Oct 2013
1472 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 1:15 pm to
I'll add that the leading suspect in one of the racial incidents and the poopstika is black.

Also, the Student Body Pres that said he was called a racial slur sent out a tweet claiming the KKK was on campus and he was in consultation with MSHP and the national guard. It wasn't true and he had to walk it back, but it sure raises questions about the truth of his previous claim. Little boy crying wolf (pun intended).
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:49 am to
I was honestly trying to figure out the black up roar of a poopsticka. I could understand a jewish backlash to it.
Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 11/18/15 at 5:15 pm to
A succinct article from Business Insider regarding the protests.

LINK
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