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Should Ford be fired after the year?

Posted on 3/26/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/26/18 at 8:54 pm
Should we hire Carl Reed?

We are doing an absolute terrible job recruiting STL.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:22 pm to
I don’t know every position ford coaches does well. I think the STL disconnect runs deeper than one person
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 9:23 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:29 pm to
I'm sure you are right, and it would be a scapegoat thing but something has to change.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:32 pm to
No doubt
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:35 pm to
Typical Mizzou overreaction.

Coaches don’t really influence recruiting. It’s the schools and their reputation that really drive recruiting.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:40 pm to
STL just seems weird to me I feel like at this point we could have a miracle season and still lose out on that city. Basketball(until recently) and football. That city has done Missouri no favors since I’ve been alive.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:42 pm to
No.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:48 pm to
I think it’s all about perception. That’s why Nebraska still pops up on all these kids radar. It still ever so faintly has the scent of a blue blood. Every single year the schools the consider are FSU USC OSU NEB BAMA. All those schools have a lot of nattys and a lot of history. Hard to overcome that in a matter of months but it needs to be figured out.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:52 pm to
For the most part, yes they do. That's why the same schools figure in the top of the recruiting rankings year after year.

We are essentially toxic to STL recruits right now and I'm not sure what we have to do to change it.

The most obvious thing would be to give the territory to someone else, but I'm not sure that's even the answer.

If Ford gets shut out in the STL metro two years in a row (which could very well happen) then I'm not sure how you justify keeping him.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:56 pm to
quote:


We are essentially toxic to STL recruits right now and I'm not sure what we have to do to change it.


There’s 1 way to change it, and that’s to win and win consistently while putting players in the NFL.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 9:58 pm to
Understandable. I’m a big scheme and coach guy in football. I think going from CBs to RBs . Gaines Penton Dennis plus how frickin terrible our corners have been since he’s left that position and how good our running backs have done especially as freshmen I’m a big Ford guy. Got to get those recruits though no doubt. I guess I don’t have answer for you
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

quote:

We are essentially toxic to STL recruits right now and I'm not sure what we have to do to change it.

There’s 1 way to change it, and that’s to win and win consistently while putting players in the NFL.


Pinkel certainly did those things. That's not ancient history. He certainly didn't clean up in STL. Better than what we are doing now, no doubt, but it was still an issue.

Just frustrating to see, especially with the area producing more talent than ever.

I know we are going to have to identify and develop to win, but we should at least be getting our share from the largest area in our own state.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:11 pm to
Even with pinkel the guys that did well were under the radar like golden and penton and the big cats that we did snagike Sheldon and Gabbert were committed to USC and Neb first. Just frustrating
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 10:59 pm to
Somebody doesn't want to admit that since Odom took over the state has had some big-time recruits and we have failed tremendously with 99% of them.

Mizzou's attendance and fanbase hasn't helped much either. There has been some chatter about Mizzou offering St. Louis players late compared to out of state schools. Illinois has been pointing that out to many St. Louis area recruits.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:12 pm to
Actually Sheldon was committed to Mizzou, then USC then back to Mizzou. Of course, my memory could be faulty too.
Posted by Mizsioux
Member since Feb 2017
748 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:15 pm to
Naw I cherry picked that one a little bit.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:49 pm to
no
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 6:09 am to
We just need better bagmen
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 8:06 am to
Can Cuonzo Martin recruit for us in football too?
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15964 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:48 am to
I actually think our STL recruits dont do a good enough job recruiting the kids in stl. I know thats not their job(but they know they should) but they know what to say to the high schoolers.
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