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re: Reasons for decreased attendance
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:11 pm to 5thTiger
Posted on 4/24/15 at 2:11 pm to 5thTiger
Fair enough. I enjoy watching Mizzou regardless of opponent.
And I believe that if Mizzou were to win 25-30 games a year over a 4-5 year period that attendance would increase.
The other question is does Mizzou care as long as tickets are being sold. There are a large number of empty seats, but those empty seats were often sold.
When Mizzou was still in the Big 12 I knew a lot of people that would donate heavily, purchase season tickets just so that they could have good seats to the kU game. That would be the only game that they would go to.
I think Mizzou needs to develop some sort of ticket exchange. If you are not going to a game and have tickets, give them to someone that would go, but maybe not afford it. Something along those lines. Michigan has had sell outs for years straight in football, they also give away almost 40,000 tickets for free for each game.
And I believe that if Mizzou were to win 25-30 games a year over a 4-5 year period that attendance would increase.
The other question is does Mizzou care as long as tickets are being sold. There are a large number of empty seats, but those empty seats were often sold.
When Mizzou was still in the Big 12 I knew a lot of people that would donate heavily, purchase season tickets just so that they could have good seats to the kU game. That would be the only game that they would go to.
I think Mizzou needs to develop some sort of ticket exchange. If you are not going to a game and have tickets, give them to someone that would go, but maybe not afford it. Something along those lines. Michigan has had sell outs for years straight in football, they also give away almost 40,000 tickets for free for each game.
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:58 pm to wubilli
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I think Mizzou needs to develop some sort of ticket exchange. If you are not going to a game and have tickets, give them to someone that would go, but maybe not afford it. Something along those lines. Michigan has had sell outs for years straight in football, they also give away almost 40,000 tickets for free for each game.
Mizzou does this. If you donate your tickets to the TSF they'll give them to the Boys and Girls Club or other local charities. But for whatever reason people hold onto them and just let them go unused. Or, you get some games that I couldn't go to this year where I literally couldn't find a single family member, friend or person in my office of 40 that wanted my tickets for free (lowers). For a myriad of reason, people just have no interest in going.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:33 pm to 5thTiger
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Sure, I wish we weren't in the SEC. I wish we were still in the Big 12.
Would you have been (marginally) happier in the Big 10?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:46 pm to 5thTiger
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We likely aren't leaving the SEC, your right. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't examine if it was the right move or not.
If that's what this thread is really about, there is not one part of me that even questions that the move was good. It 1000% was not just the right thing, not just a good thing, but better than could have ever been imagined. The exposure for the University as a whole has increased. The $$$ for the University as a whole has increased.
Moving to the SEC simply isn't a factor in the attendance problems at basketball games. It's an issue nationwide for nearly all colleges, not just Mizzou and not just basketball.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 1:55 pm to 5thTiger
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We likely aren't leaving the SEC, your right. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't examine if it was the right move or not.
Pahhlease.
Posted on 4/25/15 at 4:43 pm to hipgnosis
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Pahhlease
I'm still not sure exactly what the OP is looking for here. If he/she is looking for someone to say the move was a bad one, I think he'll be waiting for a long time. Faced with what we were back in 2010-11, this was a no-brainer.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:47 am to Mizz-SEC
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Would you have been (marginally) happier in the Big 10?
If we had to move, then marginally yes. I probably wouldn't be happy, but it makes much more sense.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:21 am to 5thTiger
TV now has every game. I'm sure most teams in all sports have felt this. Unless you are a big brand with continuous success, TV is going to cut into the gate receipts.
Those tasked with selling to donors need to put together a program of giving unused premium tickets to students.
Those tasked with selling to donors need to put together a program of giving unused premium tickets to students.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:33 am to Aux Arc
The NBA has had a couple years in a row of record attendance. And that's with classic power teams like the Lakers, Knicks, & Celtics all struggling.
They have put a huge emphasis on product on the floor and fan experience.
College basketball needs to work on the same thing. Create great fan experiences. It has to be more about just going to a game.
They have put a huge emphasis on product on the floor and fan experience.
College basketball needs to work on the same thing. Create great fan experiences. It has to be more about just going to a game.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:34 am to 5thTiger
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If we had to move, then marginally yes. I probably wouldn't be happy, but it makes much more sense.
I think you are looking at this through a personal filter. We weren't able to come to terms with the big 10. And we border as many SEC states (3) as Big 10. Depending on what division of the Big 10, travel could have been just as demanding. The SEC membership is much more lucrative for Mizzou than the Big 10, and it was a fantastic decision, particularly when we made it.
I truly believe us leaving the big 12 is the reason the conference still exists. It forced Texas to make some concessions to hold things together that they otherwise would not have made. We did our best on our way out to leave the big 12 solid for the remaining members; but make no mistake - Texas tried hard to keep us. It just wasn't enough. They only gave in on some things to try and salvage the conference. I believe they will still implode eventually. Mizzou made to best possible decision to protect ourselves. Second guessing it at this point is unproductive navel gazing.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:11 pm to semotruman
The one thing that is a must is stop putting a shitty product on the court. In years past, we've taken a group of grade schoolers into their young teens to COMO for a basketball game for various birthdays. When the kids were asked this year, they had no interest.
I'm also with Semo or whoever it was that said the new arenas tend to be too sterile. To combat that, you gotta let the Antlers loose again. Hell, I think even KA embraced them a bit, sending them pizzas as they camped out overnight. Yes, there are kids at the game, but it's a COLLEGE basketball game. Gotta loosen up a little. That doesn't mean letting them get away with murder.
While you're at it, it's been beaten to death, but you have to reconfigure the seating and get the students down on the court. You have got to make it a college atmosphere and like it or not, college atmospheres tend to be a bit rowdy at times. Having a neutered group of Antlers that call themselves ZouCrew and sit half way to the rafters just doesn't cut it.
I'm also with Semo or whoever it was that said the new arenas tend to be too sterile. To combat that, you gotta let the Antlers loose again. Hell, I think even KA embraced them a bit, sending them pizzas as they camped out overnight. Yes, there are kids at the game, but it's a COLLEGE basketball game. Gotta loosen up a little. That doesn't mean letting them get away with murder.
While you're at it, it's been beaten to death, but you have to reconfigure the seating and get the students down on the court. You have got to make it a college atmosphere and like it or not, college atmospheres tend to be a bit rowdy at times. Having a neutered group of Antlers that call themselves ZouCrew and sit half way to the rafters just doesn't cut it.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:13 pm to reedus23
Oh, and serve freakin' beer. I know it's not just a Mizzou thing and won't change but it's beyond absurd that I can serve beer at the local ballpark that has college games and high school games and somehow we can monitor that but you can't do the same at a college venue.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:32 pm to reedus23
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Oh, and serve freakin' beer.
I think the lack of beer is a conference rule. Is there any conference that allows this? Tournaments are obviously a different story.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 12:57 pm to semotruman
I know. It's just beyond stupid IMO is all. I can't even imagine how much money they lose out on not just through beer sales but from sponsorships/advertising/etc.
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:36 pm to reedus23
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While you're at it, it's been beaten to death, but you have to reconfigure the seating and get the students down on the court. You have got to make it a college atmosphere and like it or not, college atmospheres tend to be a bit rowdy at times. Having a neutered group of Antlers that call themselves ZouCrew and sit half way to the rafters just doesn't cut it.
The students were at least as bad at showing up as the folks on the sidelines in the (mostly) corporate seats...The Antlers are great but there are only about 10-15 of them I think. The student section was about 2/3 empty for all but the UK game this year. I would have killed to have those kinds of seats at The Hearnes when I was in school...
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:40 pm to NEMizzou
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The students were at least as bad at showing up as the folks on the sidelines in the (mostly) corporate seats...
I'd be more likely to show up if I were closer to the floor and wasn't worried about getting tossed for getting a little rowdy.
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The Antlers are great but there are only about 10-15 of them I think.
Yeah, their day may be done but maybe if they stop neutering them, there'd be more.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:25 am to reedus23
Since the thread changed a bit I would like to clarify that I would see a game against Michigan, Penn St., Minnesota in the same vein as I do Georgia or Tennessee.
Not very exciting.
The SEC has drastically increased my interest in football and baseball and marginally increased it in softball and women's basketball. Men's basketball is the only sport that went the other direction.
Not very exciting.
The SEC has drastically increased my interest in football and baseball and marginally increased it in softball and women's basketball. Men's basketball is the only sport that went the other direction.
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